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>Often times the people complaining about groupthink are also the ones acting immature. Not everytime though. Especially in topics like Microsoft/Apple/Google,
by recoiledsnake 15y ago
>Often times the people complaining about groupthink are also the ones acting immature.
Not everytime though. Especially in topics like Microsoft/Apple/Google, the moderation is brutal if you don't fit in the groupthink.
A big example: http://winsupersite.com http://winsupersite.com is hellbanned on HN from being submitted as a story(if you do it will show up for you, but actually it's killed so won't show up for others at all). What crime could the site have possibly committed to deserve such an extreme banning(there are no instances of other tech sites that I know of getting banned, can you give me any?).
Post complaining about the banning:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3408883 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3408883
The answer is simple, the site is of Microsoft watcher, insider and enthusiast Paul Thurrott who posts breaking news, analysis and reviews with a sometimes positive slant. That is enough for some "enthusiasts" of other platforms here to flag it to death and ultimately to hellbanning. I am guessing someone who innocently submits stories from there regularly will get their account hellbanned to, for not conforming to the groupthink on here.
This is just the visible tip of the iceberg of the groupthink which downvotes comments and flags any legitimate news that doesn't conform.
You think the point in this post is just a figment of the author's imagination? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3663447 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3663447
Another example of legitimate news getting flagged to death:
http://i.imgur.com/fSJqq.png http://i.imgur.com/fSJqq.png
How long before Winbeta is hellbanned from ever appearing on HN for being a Windows-centric news site?
Just because you haven't experienced this does not mean that others have not constantly been downvoted for their (non disrespectful) opinions. I believe that's behind their defensive "I know I am going to get downvoted..." lines.
- jasonlotito 15y ago> Not everytime though. No doubt. Hence my careful phrasing. =) > Just because you haven't experienced this... I have. But even then, if I take an honest look at what I wrote, I find I could easily discern how it comes off as me acting the part of an asshole. You post several examples (of which many are merely people complaining about downvotes which aren't contributing anything meaningful and should not be encouraged), but really, they mean anything. There will always be exceptions, but they only prove their is no groupthink beyond being respectful, intelligent, and contributing to the discussion. > I believe that's behind their defensive "I know I am going to get downvoted..." lines. Honestly, if someone spends more time writing "I know I'm going to get downvoted... HN groupthink... go ahead downvote me but you know I'm right..." then they do putting thought into their comment, I will down vote. Stop worrying about little arrows, and just be polite, post intelligently, and contribute.
- chris_wot 15y agoStop worrying about little arrows, and just be polite, post intelligently, and contribute. I think that's what he's trying to do!
- ktizo 15y agoPerhaps winsupersite's karma ran over HN's dogma.
- anthonyb 15y agoThis is essentially why I wrote the script. My reflection is that you used to be able to disagree with someone on HN and have a discussion. It was occasionally heated, but nobody really took it personally. These days, anything mildly controversial or disagreeable gets downvoted to death, often without any response at all. In those cases, asking for some sort of cogent response only gets you more downvotes...