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>The result that living together before marriage leads to worse marriages is a really surprising one It's not. People who take marriage very seriously (people
by logicchains 3y ago
>The result that living together before marriage leads to worse marriages is a really surprising one
It's not. People who take marriage very seriously (people with traditional values) are less likely to live with people before marriage, so if we select such people we'd naturally expect them to have longer marriages since they value marriage for marriage's sake.
- lazide 3y agocough have you seen how many divorces typical conservative leaders have?
- pfannkuchen 3y agoI suspect that the temptation to divorce and upgrade in some way may be greater for men with a lot of power and/or money. So I think we would expect leaders of any type to be more likely to do this.
- lazide 3y agoAccording to this article, the states with the highest divorce rates are: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/states-with-the-highest-divorce-rates https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/states-with... Do any of those strike you as anything but predominantly conservative? Arkansas 10.70% Oklahoma 10.40% Nevada 10.20% New Mexico 10.20% Kentucky 10.10% Wyoming 10% Delaware 9.40% Utah 9.40% Kansas 9.20%
- n9 3y agoI would like to see these stats compared to the average age of marriage by state. The top states regarding divorce are, overall, rural and relatively poorer (except for Delaware.) I'd also like to see the marriage rate by state for comparison, too. Arkansas has more than 2x the marriages per capita of California (lowest divorce rate), for instance, but only 20% fewer divorces... Again, this article is a bad conceptual and statistical analysis of the data.
- lazide 3y agoSure - but good luck untangling the various factors because urban environments are almost always Democrat (blue) and rural environments are almost always Republican (red). By large margins. Maybe folks have to move to rural areas after a divorce because they’re broke, for instance. Or older people tend to stay in conservative areas, and younger ones move to the cities, and older folks are more likely to be divorced? And since populations are mobile, maybe they got married in the blue (or red state) then moved and got divorced. But if someone says ‘Conservatives have fewer divorces’, that really seems implausible considering the data.
- n9 3y agoConservative leaders are very likely to only cynically perform their supposed values. For money. People that authentically hold conservative values work differently. I suspect that the lower divorce rate among this cohort has a lot to do with another statistic: that 65-70% of divorces are initiated by women. Conservative values would seem to inhibit a woman from initiating divorce, resulting in a lower rate. also: this article is poorly thought out junk top to bottom, imo.
- lazide 3y agoI have very rarely known anyone who authentically holds conservative values (or liberal ones!) when it’s very inconvenient for them. I’ve known a lot of people who pretend too though, but maybe that’s selection bias. The whole ‘abortions for me, not for thee’ situation plays out a lot for instance. And the highest porn use areas have always been conservative from what I can tell. The article is junk. But the data lines up with other sources I found. It’s just inconvenient for the narrative.