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>Wait until OP discovers smoot.apple.com ... which literally sends every single Spotlight keystroke back to Apple But what about the hill Apple fans were willi

>Wait until OP discovers smoot.apple.com ... which literally sends every single Spotlight keystroke back to Apple But what about the hill Apple fans were willing to die on, about Apple being the most privacy focused company? Doesn't this fact go against that PoV?

tremarley 3y ago
Marketing can make most people believe anything
- hulitu 3y ago
  Sometimes you will find very interesting info in the EULA/TOS. At least i found it in Apple's TOS. So the work phone is only used for authentication.
dmonitor 3y ago
Spotlight search is a live web search. It displays results as you type.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  So just like the Windows start menu search that HN says is the devil's anti-feature, but when Apple does it, it's suddenly a great feature? Do you smell that? I smell double standards and hypocrisy.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Spotlight doesn't even give you a big warning in the form of massive sponsored segments that make it clear that This Is A Web Thing Now, like the start menu search does. I had no idea that spotlight was doing this, because I only ever use spotlight to find apps or files on my local machine, and consider the web searching to be an anti-feature. If I use the search bar on my machine, I am consciously choosing not to be searching the web.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      >Spotlight doesn't even give you a big warning in the form of massive sponsored segments that make it clear that This Is A Web Thing Now, like the start menu search does. The crux of the matter is that they both beam whatever you search for to the web based mothership, defeating your privacy, not that the UI of the search feature looks nicer in one case than the other.
      - mrguyorama 3y ago
        My point is that I realized my keystrokes would be sent to microsoft servers when I open the start menu and click on the search field and all kinds of web BS pops up. It's a clear signal that allows you to moderate your activity. Spotlight isn't clear when you summon it that it is about to shoot your activity to Apple's servers. It's not a binary situation. There are always degrees
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        Yes, but the end result is the same: anti-privacy. How it looks doesn't change the result.
    - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
      >I only ever use spotlight to find apps or files on my local machine This is how I've seen many proprietary engineers search for their own local files, not realizing that Apple now knows their company's trade secrets.

tremarley 3y ago

Marketing can make most people believe anything

hulitu 3y ago
Sometimes you will find very interesting info in the EULA/TOS. At least i found it in Apple's TOS. So the work phone is only used for authentication.

dmonitor 3y ago

Spotlight search is a live web search. It displays results as you type.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
So just like the Windows start menu search that HN says is the devil's anti-feature, but when Apple does it, it's suddenly a great feature? Do you smell that? I smell double standards and hypocrisy.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Spotlight doesn't even give you a big warning in the form of massive sponsored segments that make it clear that This Is A Web Thing Now, like the start menu search does. I had no idea that spotlight was doing this, because I only ever use spotlight to find apps or files on my local machine, and consider the web searching to be an anti-feature. If I use the search bar on my machine, I am consciously choosing not to be searching the web.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >Spotlight doesn't even give you a big warning in the form of massive sponsored segments that make it clear that This Is A Web Thing Now, like the start menu search does. The crux of the matter is that they both beam whatever you search for to the web based mothership, defeating your privacy, not that the UI of the search feature looks nicer in one case than the other.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      My point is that I realized my keystrokes would be sent to microsoft servers when I open the start menu and click on the search field and all kinds of web BS pops up. It's a clear signal that allows you to moderate your activity. Spotlight isn't clear when you summon it that it is about to shoot your activity to Apple's servers. It's not a binary situation. There are always degrees
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        Yes, but the end result is the same: anti-privacy. How it looks doesn't change the result.
  - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
    >I only ever use spotlight to find apps or files on my local machine This is how I've seen many proprietary engineers search for their own local files, not realizing that Apple now knows their company's trade secrets.