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I was surprised at how verbose and commented the code was. Then I read the note saying that Whitney's original code was in `ref/` and the two files in the root

by sxp 3y ago

I was surprised at how verbose and commented the code was. Then I read the note saying that Whitney's original code was in `ref/` and the two files in the root were annotated by other kparc members.

eatonphil 3y ago
Ah, thank you for clarifying this. I was confused why it said "by Arthur Whitney" when the contributors do not seem to be Arthur Whitney.
- kelas 3y ago
  "contributors" is essentially me. what needs to be clarified? it is by arthur whitney. anything else?
Keyframe 3y ago
Whitney is an unrealized IOCCC champion.
- kelas 3y ago
  > Whitney is an unrealized IOCCC champion. no, that'd be fabrice bellard, who is actually a "realized" ioccc champ. atw doesn't do obfuscated c. you are led astray.
  - huhtenberg 3y ago
    > atw doesn't do obfuscated c. He writes as most of us code-golf. Makes you wonder how good his golfing would be if he tries.
  - Keyframe 3y ago
    You know it's in jest, of course. However, he doesn't write C either - and you know that better than us. It's a DSL with its own idioms and quirks that just happens to be in C. Often hearing about "evils" of preprocessor (which I do and don't agree with) I wonder if he ever considered anything else, aside from C, that's also low level. Heck, even asm can be macro'd away.
- gaze 3y ago
  I know you're joking but people who write C like him would argue it's not obfuscated. It's certainly not intentionally written to be more difficult to read, and those who are practiced in the art often say that it's _easier_ to read.
- dchest 3y ago
  Pity that he writes in C; if he wrote in JavaScript, he wouldn't need a minifier.
  - up2isomorphism 3y ago
    Sorry, you didn't get him. He does not do it for the sake of making it harder to read, nor he would entertain language like Javascript.
    - dchest 3y ago
      it was a joke. i'm fascinated by his approach. shakti.com has a suspiciously familiar looking snippet of javascript was it him?

by sxp 3y ago

I was surprised at how verbose and commented the code was. Then I read the note saying that Whitney's original code was in `ref/` and the two files in the root were annotated by other kparc members.

eatonphil 3y ago

Ah, thank you for clarifying this. I was confused why it said "by Arthur Whitney" when the contributors do not seem to be Arthur Whitney.

kelas 3y ago
"contributors" is essentially me. what needs to be clarified? it is by arthur whitney. anything else?

Keyframe 3y ago

Whitney is an unrealized IOCCC champion.

kelas 3y ago
> Whitney is an unrealized IOCCC champion. no, that'd be fabrice bellard, who is actually a "realized" ioccc champ. atw doesn't do obfuscated c. you are led astray.
- huhtenberg 3y ago
  > atw doesn't do obfuscated c. He writes as most of us code-golf. Makes you wonder how good his golfing would be if he tries.
- Keyframe 3y ago
  You know it's in jest, of course. However, he doesn't write C either - and you know that better than us. It's a DSL with its own idioms and quirks that just happens to be in C. Often hearing about "evils" of preprocessor (which I do and don't agree with) I wonder if he ever considered anything else, aside from C, that's also low level. Heck, even asm can be macro'd away.
gaze 3y ago
I know you're joking but people who write C like him would argue it's not obfuscated. It's certainly not intentionally written to be more difficult to read, and those who are practiced in the art often say that it's _easier_ to read.
dchest 3y ago
Pity that he writes in C; if he wrote in JavaScript, he wouldn't need a minifier.
- up2isomorphism 3y ago
  Sorry, you didn't get him. He does not do it for the sake of making it harder to read, nor he would entertain language like Javascript.
  - dchest 3y ago
    it was a joke. i'm fascinated by his approach. shakti.com has a suspiciously familiar looking snippet of javascript was it him?