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Let's see how software people feel when it becomes routine to AI wash projects to de-license them.

by foobiekr 3y ago

thot_experiment 3y ago
That's bad, but the problem there isn't the AI.
vdaea 3y ago
As a software person that feels great.
- ndriscoll 3y ago
  I for one am looking forward to LLM-based super-decompilers that can recognize assembly patterns and understand what the high level intent was. Suddenly there would be a wealth of effectively open-source code (with the hope that it wouldn't change much about SaSS-ifying things since that's mostly already done where the market will bear it).
gumballindie 3y ago
Software people here, we dont want ai people to steal our open source code, hide it behind closed models, and sell it without attribution or other terms respected. Many in the software world are in awe how much theft ai people do.
- visarga 3y ago
  Open generative models are to open source what open source is to closed source - an even deeper level of openness, customisability and accessibility. Like open source they empower their users, are private and easy to adapt. Most of the time you just need to prompt, other times you apply a fine-tuning tool, which is also open source. I really don't understand open source people combating generative AI. I've never seen this ethos since the javascript framework wars. Take a look at llama.cpp, ollama and vllm repos and their friends. They got such a sustained rate of development and participation.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    I dont think open source people are against open source models. Most are against work being used without their licensing respected. If models trained by companies on open source data would be open source that would be a win. But they arent. Furthermore, software people are heavily opposed to stealing artist’s work.
cloverich 3y ago
In general software developers are already highly (or completely) dependent on permissively licensed open source software; this would at its worst produce more of it no?

Let's see how software people feel when it becomes routine to AI wash projects to de-license them.

thot_experiment 3y ago

That's bad, but the problem there isn't the AI.

vdaea 3y ago

As a software person that feels great.

ndriscoll 3y ago
I for one am looking forward to LLM-based super-decompilers that can recognize assembly patterns and understand what the high level intent was. Suddenly there would be a wealth of effectively open-source code (with the hope that it wouldn't change much about SaSS-ifying things since that's mostly already done where the market will bear it).

gumballindie 3y ago

Software people here, we dont want ai people to steal our open source code, hide it behind closed models, and sell it without attribution or other terms respected. Many in the software world are in awe how much theft ai people do.

visarga 3y ago
Open generative models are to open source what open source is to closed source - an even deeper level of openness, customisability and accessibility. Like open source they empower their users, are private and easy to adapt. Most of the time you just need to prompt, other times you apply a fine-tuning tool, which is also open source. I really don't understand open source people combating generative AI. I've never seen this ethos since the javascript framework wars. Take a look at llama.cpp, ollama and vllm repos and their friends. They got such a sustained rate of development and participation.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  I dont think open source people are against open source models. Most are against work being used without their licensing respected. If models trained by companies on open source data would be open source that would be a win. But they arent. Furthermore, software people are heavily opposed to stealing artist’s work.

cloverich 3y ago

In general software developers are already highly (or completely) dependent on permissively licensed open source software; this would at its worst produce more of it no?