> The door SUCKS. Its so stupidly bad that its startlingly obvious no one's fair-weather skin at Tesla in sunny California has ever experienced low temperatures

> The door SUCKS. Its so stupidly bad that its startlingly obvious no one's fair-weather skin at Tesla in sunny California has ever experienced low temperatures. If the door is iced over, it takes "I'm going to break this" slamming force to break the ice and get the lever exposed. When you do, if the window seam is also iced over it won't recede below the frameless door when you open it, so you inevitably damage the trim every time you open the door (unless, maybe, you kept a blowtorch around to deice the window?) What's worse is that this isn't a new problem. My Audi has frameless doors, and zero issue opening in the cold. > None of that feels likely to happen at costs comparable to ICE, even with considerable technology advancements. That's the other part too - though slightly orthogonal. Way too many Tesla owners seem to believe that auto makers haven't advanced since the 90s, and parade things like adjustable ride height as miraculous, while the "dinosaurs" have nothing of the sort. Meanwhile my car is mapping the road surface, actively leaning into corners and following road camber, actively avoiding potholes, and adjusting the suspension, including ride height, constantly.