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> Yes you have less range, but so does gasoline. About the same amount of loss. This is absolutely not the case. The worst case scenario for ICEs (cold starts,
by FireBeyond 3y ago
> Yes you have less range, but so does gasoline. About the same amount of loss.
This is absolutely not the case. The worst case scenario for ICEs (cold starts, intermittent short trips so the engine block doesn't get heat) is 15%.
The average for EV in subfreezing is about 24% loss. And up to 39% when you're on longer trips and heating the cabin for extended periods.
- incomingpain 3y agoyou say 'average ev' to include the 1st generation evs that are trash and had no cold weather capabilities. Yes -50% range can be expected. Terrible! The kia soul for example, which originally had 150km range has been upgraded now. I believe the cold weather package is standard now? Today in 3rd generation evs, you have to cross the heat pump temp limit of -25c for there to be worse then ICE range losses. There's obviously always going to be rough losses. Afterall, the colder it is, the more I want to jack up the heat. Ford, chevy, and vw I believe are still in 2nd gen? Though honestly I havent heard how well the new ultium are doing for chevy? I believe 3rd gens, jaguar, audi, and tesla at -20c will be around -5% range loss or so? Personally I'm waiting on 4th gen with solid state batteries in hopes/expectations they handle the cold weather better. afterall it is -15c right now for me. Toyota has all the patents and might be first to market?