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There's no "full stop", that's entirely a negotiated between the researches and the state, as is happening here. You can strong arm researchers into accepting w
by zeroCalories 3y ago
There's no "full stop", that's entirely a negotiated between the researches and the state, as is happening here. You can strong arm researchers into accepting worse terms, but that just means you'll get less research done, unless funding is increased.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoAt what point do researchers benefit from the cartel? Never. Reviewers and paper judges don’t get paid. Arxiv and OR have done more for researchers than the scientific publishing cartel ever has The field of ML moves as quickly as it does because doing closed access ML separates you from the community
- shkkmo 3y ago> You can strong arm researchers into accepting worse terms, but that just means you'll get less research done, unless funding is increased. Many of the researchers are absolutely fine with this rule. It's only the top ASA leadership and the rent extracting journals that have a problem with no longer facilitating journal's rent extraction from publicly funded research.
- lupusreal 3y agoNever negotiate with a parasite. Rip it off and stomp on it.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoI agree with Pol Pot here, eradicate the scientists!
- lupusreal 3y agoTry to pay attention, we're talking about commercial journals. Scientists don't need them except insofar as their bosses expect them to publish in them. The parasitic nature of these journals is evident from the fact that some disciplines have successfully moved away from them.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoThey are one and the same
- lupusreal 3y agoIn fact they are not.