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This being the first midwest winter I've had a Model Y: there's parts of the experience that are really bad, and parts that aren't as bad as I thought they'd be
by 015a 3y ago
This being the first midwest winter I've had a Model Y: there's parts of the experience that are really bad, and parts that aren't as bad as I thought they'd be.
I don't have a place to plug it in most evenings, and it is parked outside. So, worst possible conditions. The amount of power the battery just loses overnight doing nothing is extremely predictable; if its -10-0F outside, it will lose 2%. 10F-20F, about 1%. 30F+, you won't notice drain. That's manageable.
The door SUCKS. Its so stupidly bad that its startlingly obvious no one's fair-weather skin at Tesla in sunny California has ever experienced low temperatures. If the door is iced over, it takes "I'm going to break this" slamming force to break the ice and get the lever exposed. When you do, if the window seam is also iced over it won't recede below the frameless door when you open it, so you inevitably damage the trim every time you open the door (unless, maybe, you kept a blowtorch around to deice the window?)
A friend with a Mach-E (long range) took a ~140 mile trip the other day. Left with 90% charge; made it to the destination with 4 miles of range left. -15F outside. IIRC that car should have something like 280 mile range. It might not have been as close if she could have stopped at the one non-Tesla DCFC (Electrify America) between the two places, but none of the stalls were functional. Just a horrible situation all around. You can't rely on Ford, Electrify America, anyone; you're sold a car on promises that did not materialize, and of the few people I know who purchased non-Tesla EVs, all of them are buying Teslas next.
That being said, I think its a grass-is-greener situation, and while Teslas are better in almost every way, we're talking about very core aspects of the technology shared between brands. Nothing has put me more in the "BEVs are a fad" camp than owning a BEV. This isn't the next generation of propulsion. At minimum, the sector needs: double the raw battery capacity standard; triple the roadside charging speed (~500kw) standard; including when its cold (supercharger @~0F won't go above 60kw; that's ~90m 20%-80%); ~20x (yes, twenty times, maybe more) the number of roadside DCFCs; and regulate/litigate the hell out of these DCFC networks who take federal clean energy funding (EA was founded by VW as part of their emissions scandal restitutions. They do not deserve even a drop of free market capitalism.)
None of that feels likely to happen at costs comparable to ICE, even with considerable technology advancements. Which is why I tend to feel that by 2035 we'll look back on BEVs as a weird little fad in automobile history; interesting for fleet vehicles and warn climate metropolitans, but a really poor choice for the rest of the country.
- FireBeyond 3y ago> The door SUCKS. Its so stupidly bad that its startlingly obvious no one's fair-weather skin at Tesla in sunny California has ever experienced low temperatures. If the door is iced over, it takes "I'm going to break this" slamming force to break the ice and get the lever exposed. When you do, if the window seam is also iced over it won't recede below the frameless door when you open it, so you inevitably damage the trim every time you open the door (unless, maybe, you kept a blowtorch around to deice the window?) What's worse is that this isn't a new problem. My Audi has frameless doors, and zero issue opening in the cold. > None of that feels likely to happen at costs comparable to ICE, even with considerable technology advancements. That's the other part too - though slightly orthogonal. Way too many Tesla owners seem to believe that auto makers haven't advanced since the 90s, and parade things like adjustable ride height as miraculous, while the "dinosaurs" have nothing of the sort. Meanwhile my car is mapping the road surface, actively leaning into corners and following road camber, actively avoiding potholes, and adjusting the suspension, including ride height, constantly.
- 015a 3y agoMost Tesla owners' sense of how advanced other cars have gotten is influenced directly by the frames per second their infotainment systems run at; which, admittedly, is quite bad, but hardly a broad indicator.