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We should have pushed for hybrid cars. This way, we can build the infrastructure along-side our current gas stations and give people an incentive to buy them (i

We should have pushed for hybrid cars. This way, we can build the infrastructure along-side our current gas stations and give people an incentive to buy them (increases range of gas powered cars). It would have been a win-win all around. Instead, governments want to force us to all electric too early with nowhere near the proper infrastructure.

johndunne 3y ago
Completely agree. I’m looking for a new car and I’ve dry runned some long road trips I commonly do between Yorkshire and Dublin, and in a pure ev car, it’s a very different prospect to petrol only. Plus, hybrid has lots of regenerative energy recovery that can be done to extend the mpg on the same fuel.
- cjrp 3y ago
  How so? Using Whitby as an example, it's about 240 miles (4h40) to Holyhead; you could stop on the way for a little top-up and loo break. If you wanted to arrive in Dublin with a fullish battery, there's a Gridserve at the port itself, or it looks like you can even charge onboard the ferry. https://www.irishferries.com/ie-en/frequently-asked-questions/general-information/electric-cars/ https://www.irishferries.com/ie-en/frequently-asked-question... I'm sure those chargers are all relatively expensive per kWh though, so yes compared to a petrol/diesel it would be a more expensive journey.
antisthenes 3y ago
> We should have pushed for hybrid cars. Who's this "we"? Toyota has already sold millions of hybrid vehicles to willing customers all over the world, probably more than all electric vehicles combined. Also, government can't force anything, if people don't have the money and the home charging needed for an EV, then they won't get it, short of govt giving them a free car.
- thegrim33 3y ago
  > government can't force anything https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pathway-for-zero-emission-vehicle-transition-by-2035-becomes-law https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pathway-for-zero-emission... https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-adopts-zero-emission-standards-for-car-sales-by-2035/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-adopts-zero-emi... https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-moves-accelerate-100-new-zero-emission-vehicle-sales-2035 https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-moves-accelerate-100-...
  - antisthenes 3y ago
    Wishful thinking that will get rolled back after backlash.

johndunne 3y ago

Completely agree. I’m looking for a new car and I’ve dry runned some long road trips I commonly do between Yorkshire and Dublin, and in a pure ev car, it’s a very different prospect to petrol only. Plus, hybrid has lots of regenerative energy recovery that can be done to extend the mpg on the same fuel.

cjrp 3y ago
How so? Using Whitby as an example, it's about 240 miles (4h40) to Holyhead; you could stop on the way for a little top-up and loo break. If you wanted to arrive in Dublin with a fullish battery, there's a Gridserve at the port itself, or it looks like you can even charge onboard the ferry. https://www.irishferries.com/ie-en/frequently-asked-questions/general-information/electric-cars/ https://www.irishferries.com/ie-en/frequently-asked-question... I'm sure those chargers are all relatively expensive per kWh though, so yes compared to a petrol/diesel it would be a more expensive journey.

antisthenes 3y ago

> We should have pushed for hybrid cars. Who's this "we"? Toyota has already sold millions of hybrid vehicles to willing customers all over the world, probably more than all electric vehicles combined. Also, government can't force anything, if people don't have the money and the home charging needed for an EV, then they won't get it, short of govt giving them a free car.

thegrim33 3y ago
> government can't force anything https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pathway-for-zero-emission-vehicle-transition-by-2035-becomes-law https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pathway-for-zero-emission... https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-adopts-zero-emission-standards-for-car-sales-by-2035/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/wa-adopts-zero-emi... https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-moves-accelerate-100-new-zero-emission-vehicle-sales-2035 https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-moves-accelerate-100-...
- antisthenes 3y ago
  Wishful thinking that will get rolled back after backlash.