> I think the western cult of personal responsibility also gets taken a bit too far sometimes I agree totally. This is why I would say a incel needs help. But

> I think the western cult of personal responsibility also gets taken a bit too far sometimes I agree totally. This is why I would say a incel needs help. But like with any mental trap, addiction, anxiety, obesity, etc. the first step towards getting better is aknowledging you got a problem and your current way of living does keep you from improving your situation. And this acceptance can only come from the affected person themselves.