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> voluntary > the word "incel" is short for involuntary celibate ....

by thrwawaythygyh 3y ago

dagw 3y ago
The celibacy may be involuntary, but reacting to your situation with misogyny isn't.
- thrwawaythygyh 3y ago
  bad-faith assumption (maybe even projection?)
DonHopkins 3y ago
As dagw pointed out, you're missing the point that I said "voluntary misogynists" when you quoted me out of context by omitting the important word "misogynists" after the word "voluntary". You obviously did that on purpose. It's possible to choose to not hate women, you know. Nobody forced you to, and you don't have to get somebody else's consent to not be a misogynist. And as you know, the term "incel" does not just exist in a vacuum and literally mean the combination of the words "involuntary" and "celibate", it refers to a particular well defined subculture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel >The subculture is often characterized by deep resentment, hatred, hostility, sexual objectification, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, blaming of women and the sexually successful for their situation (which is often seen as predetermined due to biological determinism, evolutionary genetics or a rigged game), a sense of futility and nihilism, rape culture, and the endorsement of sexual and nonsexual violence against women and sexually active people.[9][24] Incel communities have been increasingly criticized by scholars, government officials, and others for their misogyny, the endorsement and encouragement of violence, and extremism.[25] Over time the subculture has become associated with extremism and terrorism, and since 2014 there have been multiple mass killings mostly in North America perpetrated by self-identified incels, as well as other instances of violence or attempted violence. So no, it's not a bad-faith assumption or projection. Is it a bad faith assumption on my part that you carry the water for incels by intellectually dishonestly quoting me out of context and refusing to post under your own account and real name, because you consider yourself to be an incel? Your incel misogyny is a bad faith assumption about women and a voluntary choice that you make. Maybe if you stopped putting so much energy into feeling sorry for yourself and trying so hard to play the victim and blaming women for your lack of sex, you'd realize that your voluntary misogyny is getting in the way of you ever getting laid, and it's YOU, not women, who are you own worst enemy.

> voluntary > the word "incel" is short for involuntary celibate ....

dagw 3y ago

The celibacy may be involuntary, but reacting to your situation with misogyny isn't.

thrwawaythygyh 3y ago
bad-faith assumption (maybe even projection?)

DonHopkins 3y ago

As dagw pointed out, you're missing the point that I said "voluntary misogynists" when you quoted me out of context by omitting the important word "misogynists" after the word "voluntary". You obviously did that on purpose. It's possible to choose to not hate women, you know. Nobody forced you to, and you don't have to get somebody else's consent to not be a misogynist. And as you know, the term "incel" does not just exist in a vacuum and literally mean the combination of the words "involuntary" and "celibate", it refers to a particular well defined subculture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel >The subculture is often characterized by deep resentment, hatred, hostility, sexual objectification, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, blaming of women and the sexually successful for their situation (which is often seen as predetermined due to biological determinism, evolutionary genetics or a rigged game), a sense of futility and nihilism, rape culture, and the endorsement of sexual and nonsexual violence against women and sexually active people.[9][24] Incel communities have been increasingly criticized by scholars, government officials, and others for their misogyny, the endorsement and encouragement of violence, and extremism.[25] Over time the subculture has become associated with extremism and terrorism, and since 2014 there have been multiple mass killings mostly in North America perpetrated by self-identified incels, as well as other instances of violence or attempted violence. So no, it's not a bad-faith assumption or projection. Is it a bad faith assumption on my part that you carry the water for incels by intellectually dishonestly quoting me out of context and refusing to post under your own account and real name, because you consider yourself to be an incel? Your incel misogyny is a bad faith assumption about women and a voluntary choice that you make. Maybe if you stopped putting so much energy into feeling sorry for yourself and trying so hard to play the victim and blaming women for your lack of sex, you'd realize that your voluntary misogyny is getting in the way of you ever getting laid, and it's YOU, not women, who are you own worst enemy.