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Then you're obviously not paying attention: http://seaside.st/ http://seaside.st/ http://www.cmsbox.com/en/cms http://www.cmsbox.com/en/cms http://www.langua

• batista 15y ago
  No, THEY are obviously not producing something that gets enough publicity. Compared with CouchDB (which is not even that famous itself) all those are marginal at best, with the possible exception of Seaside, and then again that's a framework. Where's the famous site built with it, like, say, Facebook was built in PHP and Twitter in Ruby/Rails(Scala), etc?
• javajosh 15y ago
  You must not have understood my intention: Where are the applications that people use that were written in modern, free Smalltalk?
  • fractallyte 15y ago
    Smalltalk was marginalized by its image-based nature. It's an operating system as much as it is a language, so packaging up a native application to run 'outside' the image requires various widget libraries and runtime structures that haven't yet matured in the free Smalltalks. You'd have to look for enterprisey applications written with Cincom's VisualWorks, or Inception's VA Smalltalk. The web is where it currently excels. Hence the prominence of Seaside, and similar frameworks.
    • javajosh 15y ago
      >Smalltalk was marginalized by its image-based nature. Well there you have it: a non-economic reason it failed.