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>Why do you get to run a business off it for free? There isn't a divine commandment as to what rights we "should" have. We vote, fight, protest and get to make

>Why do you get to run a business off it for free? There isn't a divine commandment as to what rights we "should" have. We vote, fight, protest and get to make up our own rights. >They spend hundreds of millions on SWE salaries to make a nice SDK for you to use. They’re also operating all the servers. Your $100 does not cover it. It’s a symbiotic relationship. At least see it and acknowledge it. I don't feel like paying for an Apple executives BMW car payment. But you do you.

Ma8ee 3y ago
> There isn't a divine commandment as to what rights we "should" have. We vote, fight, protest and get to make up our own rights. Not in America. The only venue to change you have is to spend, or not spend money somewhere. Since people think they profit more from developing apps for iOS than not developing apps for iOS, Apple’s profit is “right”. And a century or so of indoctrination has made most Americans believe that this is just the natural order of things.
robertlagrant 3y ago
This isn't about rights. You already have all the rights you need here. You would like others to work for nothing, or for what you care to give them, instead of the price they offer their services at, and you'd like to vote, fight and protest until they work for your price.
- qwytw 3y ago
  > You would like others to work for nothing, So like developers working on macOS or Windows? It's so horrible that Apple has allowed third party developers to exploit them for for free for over 40 years now...
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    It's not horrible, because they chose it. The price Apple offered there was $0. No one forced them.
    - qwytw 3y ago
      Well yeah, obviously. Because Apple benefited a lot more from developers making apps/etc. for their platform than the other way around. Now that the balances has shifted (of course only on mobile) Apple became a lot more exploitative.

Ma8ee 3y ago

> There isn't a divine commandment as to what rights we "should" have. We vote, fight, protest and get to make up our own rights. Not in America. The only venue to change you have is to spend, or not spend money somewhere. Since people think they profit more from developing apps for iOS than not developing apps for iOS, Apple’s profit is “right”. And a century or so of indoctrination has made most Americans believe that this is just the natural order of things.

robertlagrant 3y ago

This isn't about rights. You already have all the rights you need here. You would like others to work for nothing, or for what you care to give them, instead of the price they offer their services at, and you'd like to vote, fight and protest until they work for your price.

qwytw 3y ago
> You would like others to work for nothing, So like developers working on macOS or Windows? It's so horrible that Apple has allowed third party developers to exploit them for for free for over 40 years now...
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  It's not horrible, because they chose it. The price Apple offered there was $0. No one forced them.
  - qwytw 3y ago
    Well yeah, obviously. Because Apple benefited a lot more from developers making apps/etc. for their platform than the other way around. Now that the balances has shifted (of course only on mobile) Apple became a lot more exploitative.