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> A similar history was followed for Starlink which is not commercially viable without its basis in furthering SDI technology. This is complete nonsense.

forgot-im-old 3y ago
Apparently you didn't read the link.
ithkuil 3y ago
"calling bullshit" is a reasonable act and we all should be able to wield that power. That said I often wish there was an effective way to communicate whether one calls bullshit because of gut feeling or not convinced by the readily available evidence and/or priors, or whether one calls bullshit because they know more details and are just deflecting actual well known bullshit but for some reason preferred to omit the details (e.g. because they value terseness). Terseness is beautiful, but not when it actually hinders communication
- weregiraffe 3y ago
  A person can use Google for 5 minutes to realize that a company does not launch 5000 satellites (surpassing all other launcher companies on Earth combined by mass launched in the process) as part of some kinda US research subsidy. Of course, if a person is already poisoned by twitter discourse to the point where they substitute their own reality just to keep hating Musk, then all hope is lost...
  - ithkuil 3y ago
    Yeah I agree, as a layperson with the ability to google 5 minutes and have my own priors I can reach the same conclusion. What I'm saying OTOH is that I have no way to know whether you have some more insightful things to say about this since you just called bullshit without any further details. I hoped you had more details
    - forgot-im-old 3y ago
      We agree actually. SpaceX is not doing this for some research project, or for a commercial internet service. It's a military project-- see the Wikipedia link.
      - ithkuil 3y ago
        I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I'm just making a meta-point about trying to better qualify one's assertions so that a reader can better judge the information content of the statement.

forgot-im-old 3y ago

Apparently you didn't read the link.

ithkuil 3y ago

"calling bullshit" is a reasonable act and we all should be able to wield that power. That said I often wish there was an effective way to communicate whether one calls bullshit because of gut feeling or not convinced by the readily available evidence and/or priors, or whether one calls bullshit because they know more details and are just deflecting actual well known bullshit but for some reason preferred to omit the details (e.g. because they value terseness). Terseness is beautiful, but not when it actually hinders communication

weregiraffe 3y ago
A person can use Google for 5 minutes to realize that a company does not launch 5000 satellites (surpassing all other launcher companies on Earth combined by mass launched in the process) as part of some kinda US research subsidy. Of course, if a person is already poisoned by twitter discourse to the point where they substitute their own reality just to keep hating Musk, then all hope is lost...
- ithkuil 3y ago
  Yeah I agree, as a layperson with the ability to google 5 minutes and have my own priors I can reach the same conclusion. What I'm saying OTOH is that I have no way to know whether you have some more insightful things to say about this since you just called bullshit without any further details. I hoped you had more details
  - forgot-im-old 3y ago
    We agree actually. SpaceX is not doing this for some research project, or for a commercial internet service. It's a military project-- see the Wikipedia link.
    - ithkuil 3y ago
      I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I'm just making a meta-point about trying to better qualify one's assertions so that a reader can better judge the information content of the statement.