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It's disingenuous to ignore the effect the aggression of the cold war and its aftermath had on the current Russian situation. With Taiwan, it's a delicate situ
by amrocha 3y ago
It's disingenuous to ignore the effect the aggression of the cold war and its aftermath had on the current Russian situation.
With Taiwan, it's a delicate situation and I'm not familiar enough with it to comment on it.
But I notice you conveniently left out all the times the US just did interventionism because it was convenient. Iraq? Most recently Venezuela? If we go back long enough, how about literally all of South America?
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- TulliusCicero 3y agoWhat military interventionism in Venezuela? The US applied sanctions when Maduro started suppressing democracy, sure, but that's not the same thing as airstrikes or invading. This sounds like goalpost moving, since we were talking specifically about military force. The US has a shit history of intervening in Latin America from the 20th century, no argument there, but it's been several decades now at least since the US overthrow a democracy in that region.
- thiagoharry 3y ago> but it's been several decades now at least since the US overthrow a democracy in that region. Isn't because it takes several decades for the secret documents being declassified? Of course the official discourse of USA is that they did nothing. However, we have several accusations of interference in Latin America in a lot of soft coups and more direct attacks like in Bolivia (2019) and Venezuela (a coup in 2002 and a mercenary attack in 2020).
- amrocha 3y agoThe US backed Guaido's illegitimate claim to Venezuelan presidency as recently as 2022. You're right that it wasn't outright military interventionism. In my mind, there's little difference between supporting a coup covertly through the CIA, by providing weapons and training, and invading a country. Maybe we disagree there.
- TulliusCicero 3y ago> between supporting a coup covertly through the CIA, by providing weapons and training, Oh, and where did this happen?
- amrocha 3y agoChile, Brazil, Argentina, Bolívia, Cuba off the top of my head. Feel free to look up a complete list if you want to.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoPlease don't move the goalposts, we were talking about Venezuela. Where did this happen recently for Venezuela?
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- amrocha 3y agoOk? What's so bad about speaking Russian? English isn't my first language, I have no attachment to it. If Russian had become the lingua franca of the world I'd have learned that instead.
- mopsi 3y ago> What's so bad about speaking Russian? Forcing Russian language and culture upon conquered nations was and remains one of the main methods of extermination of conquered peoples. There's even a word for it, Russification. Your question is the same as asking what was so bad about "speaking English" in the context of American native population and European settlers. Most of modern-day Russia is a land conquered from natives the same way European settlers conquered the Americas and wiped out native population using a wide range of tools from direct massacres to forced cultural assimilation. The question is culturally as insensitive and uneducated as asking a black person in the Americas what's so bad about working on a plantation, or why they're not happy with sitting at the back of the bus - does it rock too much there or what's the problem?
- amrocha 3y agoBuddy, I'm from South America and I had to learn English and move away from my continent in order to have a chance at a good life. I've already been colonized by the USA. Don't tell me to be thankful because Russian would have been worse.
- mopsi 3y agoNowhere did I tell you to be thankful. But I do find it hypocritical how oblivious and dismissive you are of the similar suffering caused by other countries, in even wider scale, over a longer time, in other parts of the world.