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You talk about a country defending itself as if that's what militaries do. The US military has been intervening in the world stage for 80 years at this point.
by amrocha 3y ago
You talk about a country defending itself as if that's what militaries do. The US military has been intervening in the world stage for 80 years at this point.
Take any country below the equator and chances are the US has probably used its military against it. That's not defence. You don't collaborate with that actor if you think defence is the goal.
- eep_social 3y agoNot Australia, New Zealand, or South Africa!
- andrewstuart 3y agoWell England did nuke Australia. But we’re friends so thats OK. If we set that aside as an aberration, then yes your right.
- eep_social 3y agoNo harm in a little nuclear explosion between friends.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoSo pushing Iraq out of Kuwait in 1991 wasn't defense? Fascinating worldview you got there.
- lasfter 3y agoLet's disregard that the USA encouraged Sadam to invade Kuwait and implied he would face no recourse if he did. Would you have been okay with Russia going to Iraq's aid when the USA invaded the second time? You think it's fine if Russia not only fought American troops in Iraq, but bombed the USA as well? That would have been defense by your logic, since that's exactly what the USA did to Iraq in 1991. Fascinating worldview indeed.
- Paradigma11 3y ago"Let's disregard that the USA encouraged Sadam to invade Kuwait and implied he would face no recourse if he did." That never happened. The only thing that happened was SH having a talk to a US diplomat who was noncommittal because there was no official position on it yet. Because nobody expected SH to do something that stupid.
- bigstrat2003 3y agoIs Kuwait the US? No. Then by definition it cannot be defense to take military action over there.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoDefense of another isn't defense now? In what universe?
- hnfong 3y agoIn a sane universe. You could rephrase ALL invasions as "defense of another". For example, Putin's excuse to invade Ukraine was 'to "protect the people" of the Russian-controlled breakaway republics.' Otherwise you're just arguing that countries can point at some random object and say "that's under my watch" and bring armies to fight for that thing. In a sane universe that's called an invasion. Whether the invasion is morally justified or not is another matter.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoI'm not talking about stupid mental gymnastics, I'm talking about very straightforward defense against an invasion. Iraq invaded Kuwait, a multinational coalition approved by the UN pushed them out. How is that not defense?