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"...employees who move to Austin by the end of June will receive $7,000 stipends for relocating." I would not relocate to Austin or anywhere else in Texas for

"...employees who move to Austin by the end of June will receive $7,000 stipends for relocating." I would not relocate to Austin or anywhere else in Texas for $70,000 much less $7000. Even a bastion of sanity in Texas is still in Texas. What if my daughter needed healthcare "south of the border", go to court? I'd take my chances with the severance pay and live somewhere sane where they can keep the lights on.

seoulbran 3y ago
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- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  https://jabberwocking.com/texas-vs-california-lets-have-this-out-once-and-for-all/ https://jabberwocking.com/texas-vs-california-lets-have-this...
- jumelles 3y ago
  Which metrics?
- vdaea 3y ago
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- bsder 3y ago
  San Diego to anywhere in Texas isn't a fair fight. This is simply a stealth layoff so they don't have to trigger the California layoff announcement law.
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
    This can’t be the first time a company has tried to have a layoff without calling it as such. I have to believe there is legal precedent that a forced relocation is the same as a layoff.
- mint2 3y ago
  Many people live in California due to enjoying the outdoors and weather. Then there is the right to health care which Texas does not respect. Then there is a thousand other issues and lifestyle matters one could care about.
mesozoic 3y ago
No state income tax likely does make this closer to $70k annual for most of those employees. If they get to keep their California salary it's a great deal.
- nativeit 3y ago
  They were offered a $7k one-time provision to offset relocation costs, the $70k figure was just a hyperbolic quip by the commenter you replied to. The average cost of housing is certainly lower, but despite the lack of an income tax, the average state and local tax burden for median incomes in Texas is significantly higher (12.73%) than in California (8.97%) [1]. The only people for whom Texas is a better deal for taxation are in the highest income brackets, higher even than tech workers at Apple. This is the case even though access to healthcare, higher education, and public services tends to be worse. This is why eliminating income taxes in favor of consumption and property taxes is widely considered to be regressive and disproportionately targeted at lower and middle class households. The higher median tax rate then seems to simply be a redistribution mechanism to funnel additional wealth to the wealthy on the backs of working Texans. [1] https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416 https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer...
  - TexanFeller 3y ago
    > the average state and local tax burden for median incomes in Texas is significantly higher (12.73%) than in California (8.97%) > The only people for whom Texas is a better deal for taxation are in the highest income brackets, higher even than tech workers at Apple. I pay 4-5% of my individual income in local property taxes of all types, and we pay less than 4% of our household income. And that's after recent large increases in our property value. We live in the city limits of Austin, one of the more taxed places in TX. We bought outside of downtown, but actually nearer most tech companies than downtown. Our neighborhood is perfectly safe, paying less didn't affect that. If you're in TX paying 12% of your income in taxes you probably either have a low income and inherited more house than you could otherwise afford or you made a foolish decision on where to live(had to be in that trendy part of town). Bonus: cheap gas, cheap electricity, cheap beef, cheap groceries at H-E-B
pizzafeelsright 3y ago
If there's wind Parts of California will turn off power
- mplewis 3y ago
  Yes, in comparison, Texas has a famously stable electrical grid.
- bravetraveler 3y ago
  If it's remotely close to freezing for more than a day, Texas loses reason Power is lost, people dumpster-dive, and the milk/bread sells out
Boatfaceing 3y ago
Lol south of the border. What a nice way of saying,"kill my grandchild"

seoulbran 3y ago

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toomuchtodo 3y ago
https://jabberwocking.com/texas-vs-california-lets-have-this-out-once-and-for-all/ https://jabberwocking.com/texas-vs-california-lets-have-this...
jumelles 3y ago
Which metrics?
vdaea 3y ago
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bsder 3y ago
San Diego to anywhere in Texas isn't a fair fight. This is simply a stealth layoff so they don't have to trigger the California layoff announcement law.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 3y ago
  This can’t be the first time a company has tried to have a layoff without calling it as such. I have to believe there is legal precedent that a forced relocation is the same as a layoff.
mint2 3y ago
Many people live in California due to enjoying the outdoors and weather. Then there is the right to health care which Texas does not respect. Then there is a thousand other issues and lifestyle matters one could care about.

mesozoic 3y ago

No state income tax likely does make this closer to $70k annual for most of those employees. If they get to keep their California salary it's a great deal.

nativeit 3y ago
They were offered a $7k one-time provision to offset relocation costs, the $70k figure was just a hyperbolic quip by the commenter you replied to. The average cost of housing is certainly lower, but despite the lack of an income tax, the average state and local tax burden for median incomes in Texas is significantly higher (12.73%) than in California (8.97%) [1]. The only people for whom Texas is a better deal for taxation are in the highest income brackets, higher even than tech workers at Apple. This is the case even though access to healthcare, higher education, and public services tends to be worse. This is why eliminating income taxes in favor of consumption and property taxes is widely considered to be regressive and disproportionately targeted at lower and middle class households. The higher median tax rate then seems to simply be a redistribution mechanism to funnel additional wealth to the wealthy on the backs of working Texans. [1] https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer/2416 https://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-states-to-be-a-taxpayer...
- TexanFeller 3y ago
  > the average state and local tax burden for median incomes in Texas is significantly higher (12.73%) than in California (8.97%) > The only people for whom Texas is a better deal for taxation are in the highest income brackets, higher even than tech workers at Apple. I pay 4-5% of my individual income in local property taxes of all types, and we pay less than 4% of our household income. And that's after recent large increases in our property value. We live in the city limits of Austin, one of the more taxed places in TX. We bought outside of downtown, but actually nearer most tech companies than downtown. Our neighborhood is perfectly safe, paying less didn't affect that. If you're in TX paying 12% of your income in taxes you probably either have a low income and inherited more house than you could otherwise afford or you made a foolish decision on where to live(had to be in that trendy part of town). Bonus: cheap gas, cheap electricity, cheap beef, cheap groceries at H-E-B

pizzafeelsright 3y ago

If there's wind Parts of California will turn off power

mplewis 3y ago
Yes, in comparison, Texas has a famously stable electrical grid.
bravetraveler 3y ago
If it's remotely close to freezing for more than a day, Texas loses reason Power is lost, people dumpster-dive, and the milk/bread sells out

Boatfaceing 3y ago

Lol south of the border. What a nice way of saying,"kill my grandchild"