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Intuitive's Da Vinci has been doing it commercially for 20 years....in surgury

nomel 3y ago
Please don't mistake progression for completion. And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000), end goal (the 500kg Da Vinci will never walk across the room and pick up a box), or even degrees of freedom.
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  > And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000) What's the over-under on the $35K CyberTruck ever making it to market, instead of vague handwaving "sometime towards the end of 2025, maybe"?
  - nomel 3y ago
    I'm sorry, what does the CyberTruck have to do with the conversation, or their fairly obvious progression in actuation, or progression in making a nice humanoid platform for machine learning use, or Da Vinci?
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      It means the gap between what Musk promises will be available, and the cost thereof, versus the reality of what is available, when, and for how much, is "rather sizable" at times.
      - nomel 3y ago
        I'm still not sure how Da Vinci relates, or the CyberTruck. But, sure, I don't really pay attention to timelines, since I don't have it on pre-order. They're making great progress. They will throw ML/AI at it, and it will be interesting to see what comes out. For people that enjoy tech, this is neat.
        angoragoats 3y ago
        "They're making great progress. They will throw ML/AI at it, and it will be interesting to see what comes out. For people that enjoy tech, this is neat." -Me, hearing Elon in 2015 describing fully autonomous self-driving as a "solved problem" and stating that "we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years."
  - angoragoats 3y ago
    You must have missed the memo that the $35k Cybertruck is now the $60,990 Cybertruck (this is the standard-range, available in 2025 model). You will never be able to buy one new from Tesla for anywhere close to $35k, and the fact that they announced the price as $35k _and took customer money_ based on that should, IMHO, result in financial penalties and jail time for the executives involved.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  You don't know what they're working on. If anyone can design a robot that does that, it's them, or Boston dynamics
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- angoragoats 3y ago
  > And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000), end goal (the 500kg Da Vinci will never walk across the room and pick up a box), or even degrees of freedom. How much does a Tesla robot cost and where can I buy one?

Please don't mistake progression for completion. And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000), end goal (the 500kg Da Vinci will never walk across the room and pick up a box), or even degrees of freedom.

FireBeyond 3y ago
> And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000) What's the over-under on the $35K CyberTruck ever making it to market, instead of vague handwaving "sometime towards the end of 2025, maybe"?
- nomel 3y ago
  I'm sorry, what does the CyberTruck have to do with the conversation, or their fairly obvious progression in actuation, or progression in making a nice humanoid platform for machine learning use, or Da Vinci?
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    It means the gap between what Musk promises will be available, and the cost thereof, versus the reality of what is available, when, and for how much, is "rather sizable" at times.
    - nomel 3y ago
      I'm still not sure how Da Vinci relates, or the CyberTruck. But, sure, I don't really pay attention to timelines, since I don't have it on pre-order. They're making great progress. They will throw ML/AI at it, and it will be interesting to see what comes out. For people that enjoy tech, this is neat.
      - angoragoats 3y ago
        "They're making great progress. They will throw ML/AI at it, and it will be interesting to see what comes out. For people that enjoy tech, this is neat." -Me, hearing Elon in 2015 describing fully autonomous self-driving as a "solved problem" and stating that "we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years."
- angoragoats 3y ago
  You must have missed the memo that the $35k Cybertruck is now the $60,990 Cybertruck (this is the standard-range, available in 2025 model). You will never be able to buy one new from Tesla for anywhere close to $35k, and the fact that they announced the price as $35k _and took customer money_ based on that should, IMHO, result in financial penalties and jail time for the executives involved.
iancmceachern 3y ago
You don't know what they're working on. If anyone can design a robot that does that, it's them, or Boston dynamics
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angoragoats 3y ago
> And, I don't think comparing the two is logical, for price (Da Vinci is $2,000,000), end goal (the 500kg Da Vinci will never walk across the room and pick up a box), or even degrees of freedom. How much does a Tesla robot cost and where can I buy one?