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So you have arbitrarily decided on units, such as bees and dogs. But perhaps it is an error to consider a singular bee as an arbitrary unit. What if we consider
by NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
So you have arbitrarily decided on units, such as bees and dogs. But perhaps it is an error to consider a singular bee as an arbitrary unit. What if we consider the entire hive/swarm as a unified organism? What would our results be then? What about considering individual cells of a dog instead of that whole dog? Wouldn't that tend to skew your results unfairly?
- s1artibartfast 3y agoMy examples weren't arbitrary, they were made for specific reasons. I selected bees because the article and my OP was about bees, and I selected dogs because I was asked about dogs. I don't think a hive is self aware for the same reasons as the bee. It acts conditionally but does not create new logic models of the world. As for the cells, I think they closer to complex alarm clocks than the bees, and are not self aware for the same reason. I think my logic is consistent.
- edgyquant 3y agoI think this is inaccurate. Bees definitely model the world, how else would they fly around it? Further they do communicate with one another about their environments which suggests that the hive would have a greater model of the world than any singular bee.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> What if we consider the entire hive/swarm as a unified organism? We get a less-predictive model for some questions and a more-predictive one for others. Sort of like how asking whether we should model humans as collections of cells, individuals or societies is freshman dorm stuff until we pair it with an actual question.