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I guess the policy is that tabs can use 100% of the available resources on low end devices, but only 10% of the available resources on high end devices.

skybrian 3y ago
I think the desktop policy might be better. In the tablets I've used, tabs sometimes get killed when I switch tabs and visit another website with a lot of ads. It's an annoying way to lose work in an unsubmitted form. It doesn't seem to happen for desktop.
- NavinF 3y ago
  That's because most (all?) phones don't swap to a pagefile whereas every desktop OS has swap enabled by default. The only practical solution is to buy a phone with more memory. IMO 6GB is the bare minimum in 2024
  - mkesper 3y ago
    No, just use an ad blocker and save the environment from more waste.
    - NavinF 3y ago
      Ad blockers certainly shave off a few MBs, but in my experience the vast majority of RAM usage is not caused by ads. Unlike first party content, ads are automatically benchmarked by ad exchanges and penalized for using too much resources. I also don't think a 200gram phone is the kind of waste that we should be concerned about. Think bigger
      - PoignardAzur 3y ago
        > I also don't think a 200gram phone is the kind of waste that we should be concerned about. Think bigger A lot of raw ore is processed to get those 200 grams in your hand. That said, a quick search tells me the carbon footprint of producing a phone is around 55kg, which is about 320km of car travel; it's not trivial, but it's not as much of a bottleneck I thought it might be.
        NavinF 3y ago
        It's not uncommon for me to drive 320km in a day and take flights that Google Flights claims emits 579kg per leg. So I'd place 55kg from phones in the "fuck all" category even if I upgraded every year.
        PoignardAzur 3y ago
        ... Or maybe you should avoid both? Like, I don't know your life, maybe you go to your family or important business meetings or something with these flights, but in any case none of this is going to be "fuck all" if we want to have any chance to stay under the +1.5°C (or even +2°C) bar.

skybrian 3y ago

I think the desktop policy might be better. In the tablets I've used, tabs sometimes get killed when I switch tabs and visit another website with a lot of ads. It's an annoying way to lose work in an unsubmitted form. It doesn't seem to happen for desktop.

NavinF 3y ago
That's because most (all?) phones don't swap to a pagefile whereas every desktop OS has swap enabled by default. The only practical solution is to buy a phone with more memory. IMO 6GB is the bare minimum in 2024
- mkesper 3y ago
  No, just use an ad blocker and save the environment from more waste.
  - NavinF 3y ago
    Ad blockers certainly shave off a few MBs, but in my experience the vast majority of RAM usage is not caused by ads. Unlike first party content, ads are automatically benchmarked by ad exchanges and penalized for using too much resources. I also don't think a 200gram phone is the kind of waste that we should be concerned about. Think bigger
    - PoignardAzur 3y ago
      > I also don't think a 200gram phone is the kind of waste that we should be concerned about. Think bigger A lot of raw ore is processed to get those 200 grams in your hand. That said, a quick search tells me the carbon footprint of producing a phone is around 55kg, which is about 320km of car travel; it's not trivial, but it's not as much of a bottleneck I thought it might be.
      - NavinF 3y ago
        It's not uncommon for me to drive 320km in a day and take flights that Google Flights claims emits 579kg per leg. So I'd place 55kg from phones in the "fuck all" category even if I upgraded every year.
        PoignardAzur 3y ago
        ... Or maybe you should avoid both? Like, I don't know your life, maybe you go to your family or important business meetings or something with these flights, but in any case none of this is going to be "fuck all" if we want to have any chance to stay under the +1.5°C (or even +2°C) bar.