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Pretty sure wrong. Apple cannot tax you for buying things on the game’s website. It’s just in app purchases that they have a monopoly on. So it’s annoying but i

Pretty sure wrong. Apple cannot tax you for buying things on the game’s website. It’s just in app purchases that they have a monopoly on. So it’s annoying but it is possible. Hopefully developers make use of this and other regulation finishes the job

saurik 3y ago
The argument was that Apple can use a business model similar to Epic's business model for Unreal Engine: no matter where / how you sell your game, Epic's licensing terms have you pay them a cut of your revenue.
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  So if I sign up for, say, Spotify on my windows pc on the browser, and then download the iOS client, Apple believes they deserve 30%? Yeah they can piss off with that. It’ll go away with time.
  - fastball 3y ago
    No, it would only be if you made the purchase via clicking on a specific link from within the iOS app, which Apple allows via a certain API, called an "External Purchase Link". So Apple's method of complying is: - yes you can link to an external price, but you need to use our API (External Purchase Link) to do it, per our terms - any purchases made via an External Purchase Link require Apple be paid the usual cut, per our terms Seems to fairly clearly violate the spirit of the last ruling, but not the letter of it. I dislike Apple's behavior here, but it's actually kinda genius from a "malicious compliance" perspective. Doing the above is going to be more annoying and you will still owe them a cut, so everyone will just keep doing IAP via Apple if their implementation is allowed to stand.
    - simiones 3y ago
      Pretty sure that Epic will sue again over this, and quite easily win. If Apple has to allow you to advertise that things can be bought from somewhere else, it doesn't seem plausible they can mandate how exactly you advertise this.
threeseed 3y ago
"Apple has also confirmed that it will charge a commission on purchases made through alternative payment platforms. This commission will be 12% for developers who are a member of the App Store Small Business Program and 27% for other apps." https://9to5mac.com/2024/01/16/apple-revises-us-app-store-rules-to-let-developers-link-to-outside-payment-methods-but-it-will-still-charge-a-commission/ https://9to5mac.com/2024/01/16/apple-revises-us-app-store-ru...
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  > The commission will apply to “purchases made within seven days after a user taps on an External Purchase Link and continues from the system disclosure sheet to an external website.” Remove the link and offer a url ;)

saurik 3y ago

The argument was that Apple can use a business model similar to Epic's business model for Unreal Engine: no matter where / how you sell your game, Epic's licensing terms have you pay them a cut of your revenue.

jncfhnb 3y ago
So if I sign up for, say, Spotify on my windows pc on the browser, and then download the iOS client, Apple believes they deserve 30%? Yeah they can piss off with that. It’ll go away with time.
- fastball 3y ago
  No, it would only be if you made the purchase via clicking on a specific link from within the iOS app, which Apple allows via a certain API, called an "External Purchase Link". So Apple's method of complying is: - yes you can link to an external price, but you need to use our API (External Purchase Link) to do it, per our terms - any purchases made via an External Purchase Link require Apple be paid the usual cut, per our terms Seems to fairly clearly violate the spirit of the last ruling, but not the letter of it. I dislike Apple's behavior here, but it's actually kinda genius from a "malicious compliance" perspective. Doing the above is going to be more annoying and you will still owe them a cut, so everyone will just keep doing IAP via Apple if their implementation is allowed to stand.
  - simiones 3y ago
    Pretty sure that Epic will sue again over this, and quite easily win. If Apple has to allow you to advertise that things can be bought from somewhere else, it doesn't seem plausible they can mandate how exactly you advertise this.

threeseed 3y ago

"Apple has also confirmed that it will charge a commission on purchases made through alternative payment platforms. This commission will be 12% for developers who are a member of the App Store Small Business Program and 27% for other apps." https://9to5mac.com/2024/01/16/apple-revises-us-app-store-rules-to-let-developers-link-to-outside-payment-methods-but-it-will-still-charge-a-commission/ https://9to5mac.com/2024/01/16/apple-revises-us-app-store-ru...

jncfhnb 3y ago
> The commission will apply to “purchases made within seven days after a user taps on an External Purchase Link and continues from the system disclosure sheet to an external website.” Remove the link and offer a url ;)