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> I don't think it's out of the question. That's a cop-out. Let me put another way: what odds do you give for them closing down YouTube for non-paying custome

> I don't think it's out of the question. That's a cop-out. Let me put another way: what odds do you give for them closing down YouTube for non-paying customers in the next 3 years? If we make a bet where I pay $10.000 that they will not close, and you have to pay $1.000, do you take it?

carlosjobim 3y ago
If you actually read my comment, I haven't predicted anything about YouTube's business model. I wrote that I hope they would paywall their entire catalog (like Netflix). That's what I would personally prefer, nothing more. And it's not out of the question, things are changing quite rapidly now that we're a few years into a global economic depression. Once honest advertisers realise how low the return of online advertising has become, it will become more difficult for Google, Meta and others to attract them. Left will be the scam advertisers (who are already a large part of online ads), driving customers away from the product and maybe even start attracting the interest of the law. I'm surprised that all these tech giants haven't yet been prosecuted and fined billions for allowing outright scams on their platforms. What is the real value in YouTube? It's the videos, and there's a much greater amount of videos and a much greater amount of the highest quality videos on YouTube than on any other platform. Yet, many more people pay for Netflix and cable. As long as YouTube has the free, ad-supported tier, many people will not pay for the product. Only because of psychology and the way that "free" messes with people's reasoning. If YouTube became paid only, I think a lot of consumers would rethink. But do I expect that this is going to happen? No.
- rglullis 3y ago
  You went from arguing that people must comply to YouTube terms if they want to watch the videos to "I hope they paywall their catalog, but I don't think they would do it" while being "surprised they haven't yet been fined billions for allowing outright scams on their platforms". You really don't see a problem here? Do you think that people should not react to this complete disregard for ethics? Do you think that people should just accept that content creators (who are in on it and stand to gain from that) are just victims in this system and should still be protected?

carlosjobim 3y ago

If you actually read my comment, I haven't predicted anything about YouTube's business model. I wrote that I hope they would paywall their entire catalog (like Netflix). That's what I would personally prefer, nothing more. And it's not out of the question, things are changing quite rapidly now that we're a few years into a global economic depression. Once honest advertisers realise how low the return of online advertising has become, it will become more difficult for Google, Meta and others to attract them. Left will be the scam advertisers (who are already a large part of online ads), driving customers away from the product and maybe even start attracting the interest of the law. I'm surprised that all these tech giants haven't yet been prosecuted and fined billions for allowing outright scams on their platforms. What is the real value in YouTube? It's the videos, and there's a much greater amount of videos and a much greater amount of the highest quality videos on YouTube than on any other platform. Yet, many more people pay for Netflix and cable. As long as YouTube has the free, ad-supported tier, many people will not pay for the product. Only because of psychology and the way that "free" messes with people's reasoning. If YouTube became paid only, I think a lot of consumers would rethink. But do I expect that this is going to happen? No.

rglullis 3y ago
You went from arguing that people must comply to YouTube terms if they want to watch the videos to "I hope they paywall their catalog, but I don't think they would do it" while being "surprised they haven't yet been fined billions for allowing outright scams on their platforms". You really don't see a problem here? Do you think that people should not react to this complete disregard for ethics? Do you think that people should just accept that content creators (who are in on it and stand to gain from that) are just victims in this system and should still be protected?