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The main thing is the "work from home" movement. At first employers hated the idea of employees working from home. But then employers got used to it, and then t

The main thing is the "work from home" movement. At first employers hated the idea of employees working from home. But then employers got used to it, and then they realized that they could outsource most work to a Third World country. Because once work leaves the office, there is no reason for the work to remain in the USA or Europe. It might as well as go some place cheap, like Brazil or India or Vietnam. Mentally, it took employers several years to fully adjust their mindset, but now that they've committed to being "remote first" they are realizing that they can outsource much more work than they ever did in the past.

to-too-two 3y ago
I think there should be strict laws around outsourcing. Maybe companies that pay X amount of taxes (related to their earnings) have to ensure Z amount of their employees are nationals. It just doesn’t seem fair that they get to take advantage of their home countries infrastructure while providing employment to other countries. I was laid off due to outsourcing.
lemme_tell_ya 3y ago
I think it's a culmination of things: - Like you said: once work leaves the office, there is no reason for the work to remain in the USA or Europe. I witnessed this at a company I was working at in 2019-2021. I was managing a small team, my team and others were drowning, the workload was so absurd we had several people quit over the span of a couple of months (making the problem even worse!) I finally got a 1-1 with a VP asking what the hell we were going to do about the situation. They told me, in confidence that they'd just let most of the developers quit on their own and start outsourcing all the projects to a company in another country (I want to say somewhere in South America.) They had been in talks with this company for months... - Ghost jobs. The company I work for has a couple of jobs on their careers page that I know with certainty we're not actually hiring for. I looked at my old company, and same thing there (still have friends that work there and know they're not hiring for those roles.) - Tons of people seeing the salary of folks in tech and pivoting into it (and a fair amount of them are just not well suited for it.) Software, Networking, Infrastructure, etc just aren't for everyone. Just like how cutting open a human on an operating table is not for me! We've all worked with that one person that just couldn't code themselves out of a wet paper bag and they've all tried to hop on the hot tech bandwagon when everything went remote due to COVID. - Years (decades?) of VC backed companies that have hemorrhaged money since exception and gasp actually need to make a profit, and can't are going belly up. - AI, hype or not definitely having an impact and mixing things up. Maybe not entirely in tech but I see AI generated artwork everywhere I look now. - We thought it would be a good idea to shutdown the country (due to covid), but then had to print and pump money into the economy to get it started again, now we're paying the price for it. - The R&D tax credit going away.

to-too-two 3y ago

I think there should be strict laws around outsourcing. Maybe companies that pay X amount of taxes (related to their earnings) have to ensure Z amount of their employees are nationals. It just doesn’t seem fair that they get to take advantage of their home countries infrastructure while providing employment to other countries. I was laid off due to outsourcing.

lemme_tell_ya 3y ago

I think it's a culmination of things: - Like you said: once work leaves the office, there is no reason for the work to remain in the USA or Europe. I witnessed this at a company I was working at in 2019-2021. I was managing a small team, my team and others were drowning, the workload was so absurd we had several people quit over the span of a couple of months (making the problem even worse!) I finally got a 1-1 with a VP asking what the hell we were going to do about the situation. They told me, in confidence that they'd just let most of the developers quit on their own and start outsourcing all the projects to a company in another country (I want to say somewhere in South America.) They had been in talks with this company for months... - Ghost jobs. The company I work for has a couple of jobs on their careers page that I know with certainty we're not actually hiring for. I looked at my old company, and same thing there (still have friends that work there and know they're not hiring for those roles.) - Tons of people seeing the salary of folks in tech and pivoting into it (and a fair amount of them are just not well suited for it.) Software, Networking, Infrastructure, etc just aren't for everyone. Just like how cutting open a human on an operating table is not for me! We've all worked with that one person that just couldn't code themselves out of a wet paper bag and they've all tried to hop on the hot tech bandwagon when everything went remote due to COVID. - Years (decades?) of VC backed companies that have hemorrhaged money since exception and gasp actually need to make a profit, and can't are going belly up. - AI, hype or not definitely having an impact and mixing things up. Maybe not entirely in tech but I see AI generated artwork everywhere I look now. - We thought it would be a good idea to shutdown the country (due to covid), but then had to print and pump money into the economy to get it started again, now we're paying the price for it. - The R&D tax credit going away.