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Caches solve this placement problem just fine today and content addressing does not alleviate the placement problem at all. Reality is the space thing is just

Caches solve this placement problem just fine today and content addressing does not alleviate the placement problem at all. Reality is the space thing is just part of the usual crypto grift narrative building.

diggan 3y ago
> Caches solve this placement problem just fine today and content addressing does not alleviate the placement problem at all. Being able to arbitrary place caches anywhere and let anyone serve the data, and you can trust you're getting the right data, is a huge benefit over location-addressing. Ignoring IPFS, content-addressing makes sense for so many things, which is what lots of storage/caching/CDN solutions have discovered decades ago. Content-addressing is nothing new (nor did Protocol Labs/IPFS "invent" it) and if you're using a CDN to serve content today, the CDN is with 99% certainty using content-addressing at least internally.
- numbsafari 3y ago
  > Being able to arbitrary place caches anywhere and let anyone serve the data This is the grift. The "libertarians" want to be able to host their CSAM, sorry, their "freedom materials" on everyone's servers in such a way that nobody can ever "silence their freedom" because it would mean silencing the cat gifs, too. Want to be "on the net"? Well, you absolutely have to agree to host anyone else's content without question at all times. But, it's okay, we'll pay you with... coins!
  - diggan 3y ago
    Like many others, you seem to not really grasp how IPFS works. Nothing gets distributed automatically. Besides, how on earth is your argument even relevant when we're talking about content-addressing as a whole, without involving IPFS at all?
    - numbsafari 3y ago
      I get how IPFS works. I think the problem you have is that you can't distinguish between IPFS and CAS. Lots of things use CAS, not just IPFS. The specific case you outline can be served by existing technology, without having to introduce magic coins, beans, or other distractions. I was pretty interested in IPFS prior to it being overtaken by web3 grifters.
jayd16 3y ago
Simple caches do not allow third parties to deploy them while being sufficiently secure.

diggan 3y ago

> Caches solve this placement problem just fine today and content addressing does not alleviate the placement problem at all. Being able to arbitrary place caches anywhere and let anyone serve the data, and you can trust you're getting the right data, is a huge benefit over location-addressing. Ignoring IPFS, content-addressing makes sense for so many things, which is what lots of storage/caching/CDN solutions have discovered decades ago. Content-addressing is nothing new (nor did Protocol Labs/IPFS "invent" it) and if you're using a CDN to serve content today, the CDN is with 99% certainty using content-addressing at least internally.

numbsafari 3y ago
> Being able to arbitrary place caches anywhere and let anyone serve the data This is the grift. The "libertarians" want to be able to host their CSAM, sorry, their "freedom materials" on everyone's servers in such a way that nobody can ever "silence their freedom" because it would mean silencing the cat gifs, too. Want to be "on the net"? Well, you absolutely have to agree to host anyone else's content without question at all times. But, it's okay, we'll pay you with... coins!
- diggan 3y ago
  Like many others, you seem to not really grasp how IPFS works. Nothing gets distributed automatically. Besides, how on earth is your argument even relevant when we're talking about content-addressing as a whole, without involving IPFS at all?
  - numbsafari 3y ago
    I get how IPFS works. I think the problem you have is that you can't distinguish between IPFS and CAS. Lots of things use CAS, not just IPFS. The specific case you outline can be served by existing technology, without having to introduce magic coins, beans, or other distractions. I was pretty interested in IPFS prior to it being overtaken by web3 grifters.

jayd16 3y ago

Simple caches do not allow third parties to deploy them while being sufficiently secure.