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The absolute distain for YouTube has bothered me for a long time as a YouTube creator of many years myself. The platform is the most fair by far to creators and

The absolute distain for YouTube has bothered me for a long time as a YouTube creator of many years myself. The platform is the most fair by far to creators and viewers. Amazing how little hate TikTok gets.

Workaccount2 3y ago
Youtube gets hate literally because they have tolerated ad-block for so many years. People are pissed that YouTube is getting sick of serving them free content.
- TechSquidTV 3y ago
  Agreed
- avgDev 3y ago
  I would be more than happy to pay YouTube or watch ads, but they need to ban sponsored ads in their videos. If I don't use adblock, I get served an ad by google, then a 1-3 minute sponsored segment by the creator. I'm not paying for this.
  - Finn_ 3y ago
    While this doesn't completely solve the problem, SponsorBlock [0] makes it much more tolerable when watching videos in your browser. [0]: https://sponsor.ajay.app https://sponsor.ajay.app
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    Isn't that what SponsorBlock is for? I don't think you want YouTube censoring videos on this basis.
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    You know you can just fast-forward through those, right? I mean, sure, that's still a minor annoyance, but not every channel has them, and many of them put them at the end anyways.
- thefurdrake 3y ago
  Yeah, sorry, this feels like a strawman. The adblock issue is only the most recent and exciting of the multitudinous pile of suck Youtube has been generating the last 5 years or so. The content discovery genuinely sucks. Being forcefed tiktok cancer content (shorts) and needing to install plugins to remove that shit from /my/ browsing experience is asinine. I just checked Blocktube, too: I have 1012 blocked channels, and the list constantly grows, because their "algorithm" is less competent than their search function somehow, and I'm constantly shown bullshit I'm not interested in. If blocktube couldn't programmatically block all videos with <1k views or <120 seconds of content, that blocklist would be at least twice as large. So what is this delightful, friendly, relaxing experience worth to me? Zero. $0. Nil. Nul. Null. 0. False. I will pay them nothing and continue using their resources to the detriment of the multinational megacorp until it becomes more difficult than `yt-dlp $url`, after which I will replace their valueless time-wasting experience with something else. Because their product (trying to recreate cable television) has no value beyond wasting my time. And to head off the "But muh creators" argument: I don't care. Between having to install plugins to remove ads AND being forced to constantly watched 2+minute inline sponsorship ads (which I tolerate a single time, after which they're skipped; I already know about the product and I'm not interested), I just don't care anymore. I will not be advertised to constantly. I will not comply. I haven't watched cable TV since 2006, and I'm not about to start now.
rightbyte 3y ago
I don't think TikTok and Instagram got that many users on HN compared to YT?
reaperman 3y ago
*disdain [0][1] (perhaps unless you're writing historical fiction or fantasy) 0: https://grammarist.com/spelling/disdain-or-distain/ https://grammarist.com/spelling/disdain-or-distain/ 1: The only known use of the noun distain is in the late 1500s. OED's only evidence for distain is from 1581, in the writing of Barnaby Rich, soldier and author. It is also recorded as a verb from the Middle English period (1150—1500).

Workaccount2 3y ago

Youtube gets hate literally because they have tolerated ad-block for so many years. People are pissed that YouTube is getting sick of serving them free content.

TechSquidTV 3y ago
Agreed
avgDev 3y ago
I would be more than happy to pay YouTube or watch ads, but they need to ban sponsored ads in their videos. If I don't use adblock, I get served an ad by google, then a 1-3 minute sponsored segment by the creator. I'm not paying for this.
- Finn_ 3y ago
  While this doesn't completely solve the problem, SponsorBlock [0] makes it much more tolerable when watching videos in your browser. [0]: https://sponsor.ajay.app https://sponsor.ajay.app
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  Isn't that what SponsorBlock is for? I don't think you want YouTube censoring videos on this basis.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  You know you can just fast-forward through those, right? I mean, sure, that's still a minor annoyance, but not every channel has them, and many of them put them at the end anyways.
thefurdrake 3y ago
Yeah, sorry, this feels like a strawman. The adblock issue is only the most recent and exciting of the multitudinous pile of suck Youtube has been generating the last 5 years or so. The content discovery genuinely sucks. Being forcefed tiktok cancer content (shorts) and needing to install plugins to remove that shit from /my/ browsing experience is asinine. I just checked Blocktube, too: I have 1012 blocked channels, and the list constantly grows, because their "algorithm" is less competent than their search function somehow, and I'm constantly shown bullshit I'm not interested in. If blocktube couldn't programmatically block all videos with <1k views or <120 seconds of content, that blocklist would be at least twice as large. So what is this delightful, friendly, relaxing experience worth to me? Zero. $0. Nil. Nul. Null. 0. False. I will pay them nothing and continue using their resources to the detriment of the multinational megacorp until it becomes more difficult than `yt-dlp $url`, after which I will replace their valueless time-wasting experience with something else. Because their product (trying to recreate cable television) has no value beyond wasting my time. And to head off the "But muh creators" argument: I don't care. Between having to install plugins to remove ads AND being forced to constantly watched 2+minute inline sponsorship ads (which I tolerate a single time, after which they're skipped; I already know about the product and I'm not interested), I just don't care anymore. I will not be advertised to constantly. I will not comply. I haven't watched cable TV since 2006, and I'm not about to start now.

rightbyte 3y ago

I don't think TikTok and Instagram got that many users on HN compared to YT?

reaperman 3y ago

*disdain [0][1] (perhaps unless you're writing historical fiction or fantasy) 0: https://grammarist.com/spelling/disdain-or-distain/ https://grammarist.com/spelling/disdain-or-distain/ 1: The only known use of the noun distain is in the late 1500s. OED's only evidence for distain is from 1581, in the writing of Barnaby Rich, soldier and author. It is also recorded as a verb from the Middle English period (1150—1500).