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1% of 1% of their monthly users taking the worst interpretation and running with it is hundreds of thousands of people. I think it just particularly happens to

1% of 1% of their monthly users taking the worst interpretation and running with it is hundreds of thousands of people. I think it just particularly happens to be the doubters are comprised primarily of us tech focused population so we see it strongly. How much of a problem it is I'm not as sure. Does the average consumer (not the people on HN or the ones we hang out with) actually have a particularly weaker view of Google than they did e.g. 10-15 years ago or is it just us techies who used to consider them the greatest thing since sliced bread and now often see them as an enemy? One is disappointing for us, the other is a long term problem for Google.

noir_lord 3y ago
I'd argue that widespread distrust amongst "techies" is a bigger problem than it might otherwise appear because of how disproportionate an influence we have both at work and with people who know and trust our opinion. It's not one big cut but it's a death by a thousand cuts situation, I've never owned an iphone (beyond test devices issued by work) but it's likely my next device will be an iphone and I've been Android all the way back to the HTC Droid, when people ask me for a recommendation these days for their next phone I say iphone, that's three direct sales for Apple I can account for (parents and family) and 3 lost sales for Android/Google.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  Why such a rosey view of Apple compared to Google? If you have been an Android user you might be surprised by what restrictions exist in the Apple world. It's annoying to have to side load app in Android but impossible with Apple unless running in debug mode with a cord attached to a real computer.
  - snapcaster 3y ago
    I will never use a phone operating system made by an advertising company. I don't know how much longer Apple can resist becoming one and then I don't know what i'll do
    - ipaddr 3y ago
      Apple is an advertising company where every decision is trying to get you to buy more apple products
      - snapcaster 3y ago
        Yes, we can always expand definitions to where everything means everything but why?
- ephemeral-life 3y ago
  > distrust amongst "techies" is a bigger problem than it might otherwise appear because of how disproportionate an influence we have If this was true, everyone would be using linux. The "techy" market is completely different from the consumer market and also much less lucrative. Google might as well allow adblockers, since the techies wouldn't click on ads anyways.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
  > HTC Droid Huh...I was about to post "Droid was from Motorola" but I checked myself first, and yeah...HTC had a few models they called Droid, though they all had a suffix, ie, Droid Incredible or Droid Eris. Personally, I'll never buy Apple just because I absolutely hate their walled garden approach to your device.

noir_lord 3y ago

I'd argue that widespread distrust amongst "techies" is a bigger problem than it might otherwise appear because of how disproportionate an influence we have both at work and with people who know and trust our opinion. It's not one big cut but it's a death by a thousand cuts situation, I've never owned an iphone (beyond test devices issued by work) but it's likely my next device will be an iphone and I've been Android all the way back to the HTC Droid, when people ask me for a recommendation these days for their next phone I say iphone, that's three direct sales for Apple I can account for (parents and family) and 3 lost sales for Android/Google.

ipaddr 3y ago
Why such a rosey view of Apple compared to Google? If you have been an Android user you might be surprised by what restrictions exist in the Apple world. It's annoying to have to side load app in Android but impossible with Apple unless running in debug mode with a cord attached to a real computer.
- snapcaster 3y ago
  I will never use a phone operating system made by an advertising company. I don't know how much longer Apple can resist becoming one and then I don't know what i'll do
  - ipaddr 3y ago
    Apple is an advertising company where every decision is trying to get you to buy more apple products
    - snapcaster 3y ago
      Yes, we can always expand definitions to where everything means everything but why?
ephemeral-life 3y ago
> distrust amongst "techies" is a bigger problem than it might otherwise appear because of how disproportionate an influence we have If this was true, everyone would be using linux. The "techy" market is completely different from the consumer market and also much less lucrative. Google might as well allow adblockers, since the techies wouldn't click on ads anyways.
Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
> HTC Droid Huh...I was about to post "Droid was from Motorola" but I checked myself first, and yeah...HTC had a few models they called Droid, though they all had a suffix, ie, Droid Incredible or Droid Eris. Personally, I'll never buy Apple just because I absolutely hate their walled garden approach to your device.