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Add it to the list: * EV battery conditioning * diesel anti-gel * engine block heaters Many machines don't like the cold. I remember getting days off of sc

Add it to the list: * EV battery conditioning * diesel anti-gel * engine block heaters Many machines don't like the cold. I remember getting days off of school as a kid because too many of the school busses wouldn't start due to gelled diesel.

glitchc 3y ago
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- bheadmaster 3y ago
  It also takes about 2 minutes for the first Tesla hater to start calling people names instead of presenting counter-arguments.
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- kube-system 3y ago
  Clearly you haven't read my comment history, I'm a huge Tesla critic. But this isn't that. This is just EV FUD. Most vehicles have trouble in -45°C.
  - glitchc 3y ago
    Why would I read your comment history? Have you read mine? Trouble starting perhaps, definitely not trouble running once started. Here the Teslas are too cold to even be refueled.
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  - Skunkleton 3y ago
    You have to warm them up, but let’s not pretend that EV and ICE are equally impacted by the cold.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      -45C is something that would give pause to most ICE vehicles. Once you actually got it running sure it would be mostly fine and you could use the full range of the fuel onboard, but normal oil gets THICK at that temp, normal car batteries get pathetic, and your block will literally freeze (and crack open!) if you use common ICE antifreeze, which often only protects down to about -34F. Anything lower is a more specialized product. Cars have had batteries in them that struggle at low temps for about a century. It's not something the average car user should be unfamiliar with.
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ceejayoz 3y ago
Gas pumps freeze, too. https://www.wcia.com/news/local-news/cold-weather-causes-frozen-gas-pumps/ https://www.wcia.com/news/local-news/cold-weather-causes-fro...
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  Everything can freeze. The only question is whether something is much more susceptible to freezing.
tivert 3y ago
> * engine block heaters And Tesla should probably take inspiration from those, and power the battery heater from the charging station, so you don't get: > The solution is to keep the battery warm, but the heat comes from the battery itself, so these stricken Tesla drivers are draining the battery just to be able to charge the battery, and we don't need to explain why that might be inefficient.

glitchc 3y ago

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bheadmaster 3y ago
It also takes about 2 minutes for the first Tesla hater to start calling people names instead of presenting counter-arguments.
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kube-system 3y ago
Clearly you haven't read my comment history, I'm a huge Tesla critic. But this isn't that. This is just EV FUD. Most vehicles have trouble in -45°C.
- glitchc 3y ago
  Why would I read your comment history? Have you read mine? Trouble starting perhaps, definitely not trouble running once started. Here the Teslas are too cold to even be refueled.
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- Skunkleton 3y ago
  You have to warm them up, but let’s not pretend that EV and ICE are equally impacted by the cold.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    -45C is something that would give pause to most ICE vehicles. Once you actually got it running sure it would be mostly fine and you could use the full range of the fuel onboard, but normal oil gets THICK at that temp, normal car batteries get pathetic, and your block will literally freeze (and crack open!) if you use common ICE antifreeze, which often only protects down to about -34F. Anything lower is a more specialized product. Cars have had batteries in them that struggle at low temps for about a century. It's not something the average car user should be unfamiliar with.
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ceejayoz 3y ago

Gas pumps freeze, too. https://www.wcia.com/news/local-news/cold-weather-causes-frozen-gas-pumps/ https://www.wcia.com/news/local-news/cold-weather-causes-fro...

gjsman-1000 3y ago
Everything can freeze. The only question is whether something is much more susceptible to freezing.

tivert 3y ago

> * engine block heaters And Tesla should probably take inspiration from those, and power the battery heater from the charging station, so you don't get: > The solution is to keep the battery warm, but the heat comes from the battery itself, so these stricken Tesla drivers are draining the battery just to be able to charge the battery, and we don't need to explain why that might be inefficient.