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Nah, thieves are scum. People don't steal cars and bikes to buy food, they do it because they're selfish and want a shortcut to get the things they want. In an
by cedws 3y ago
Nah, thieves are scum.
People don't steal cars and bikes to buy food, they do it because they're selfish and want a shortcut to get the things they want. In any first world country there are ways to get food without resorting to taking other peoples' possessions that they worked hard for.
There are many people out there having a really hard time who would never even think about stealing because they were raised with a functioning moral compass.
- jampekka 3y agoThis is why we can't have nice things.
- cedws 3y agoI don't know how I'm supposed to have any sympathy for thieves when myself and my family have been victims of multiple thefts totalling tens of thousands of pounds over the past years. I comforted my mum while she bawled her eyes out for hours when her car was stolen off of our driveway at the crack of dawn. Fuck thieves.
- BizarreByte 3y agoOne a thief always a thief, there's a reason it was punished so severely throughout history. Theft has the highest recidivism rate too[1]. You can never trust someone who has stolen again, thieves are the scum of the earth and only hurt good people. [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/proven-reoffending-statistics-january-to-march-2021/proven-reoffending-statistics-january-to-march-2021 https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/proven-reoffending-...
- jdthedisciple 3y agoHmmm maybe there is a good reason they chop off thieves' hands in Islam...
- BriggyDwiggs42 3y agoJesus guys
- asylteltine 3y agoExactly. Being a thief is a personality. We need to lock them up forever. How dare someone take something that isn’t theirs.
- vt85 3y ago[dead]
- hypeatei 3y agoBoth can be true: thieves are scum and modern society exacerbates the problem. Sure, we should punish crime but never solving the root problem and taking a "hardline" approach towards the symptoms feels good. But, it puts us in a perpetual state of law enforcement and anxiety about crime.
- tored 3y agoPlease explain what is the root problem and how solve it.
- hypeatei 3y agoHealthcare should be universal and require almost no paperwork from the patient. Our current system is too bloated and either requires a job with good insurance or weeks/months of research into your options. Agencies like the DEA should be abolished and possession/use of drugs should not equal prison time or anything on your record. Of course, things like driving impaired are still punished because you're endangering others. College should not be expensive or put you into debt for decades. In the US, we need a general cultural shift away from hyper individualism and unregulated capitalism.
- tored 3y agoSweden has universal healthcare and education is free, but still Sweden suffers from massive crime wave. Sweden's welfare state is a left wing dream come true, however the bad news for the left is that it empirically disproves every left wing idea about crime and society.
- Kiro 3y agoYou're getting downvoted, but the current situation in Sweden is a good example of why universal healthcare and free education are not enough.
- BriggyDwiggs42 3y agoIt’s a matter of degree. We often put people in the position where they need to do some pretty terrible, degrading work just to eat. In my view as the alternatives you have get worse, it gets less morally questionable to steal. Furthermore, I think it should largely be evaluated by the harm it does to others, e.g. stealing a car from a sheltered rich person who can afford an uber in an emergency does them much less harm than from a poor person, who may not be able to get to work and put food on the table. Im not even saying it’s fine to steal the rich person’s car, just relatively okay. Thieves are definitely selfish, but so is everyone else in our free market system. We consider it a virtue when the right people do it. Look, most of the time I agree that like, fuck thieves. I just also agree think that the underlying issues are inequality, alienation, and other socioeconomic shit, and that condemning thieves morally is counterproductive because it distracts from the useful changes to prevent them from becoming thieves.
- pdonis 3y ago> Thieves are definitely selfish, but so is everyone else in our free market system. In a free market, all transactions are voluntary. "Selfishness" just means that you only agree to a transaction if it benefits you. But the other party will only agree if it benefits them, so it's a win-win. Thievery, OTOH, is not voluntary for the victim, and is, at best, a win-lose. Not at all the same as a free market transaction.