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> Do not forget to preorder, to get the unbelievably low price listed in their announcement. I don't know much about the RISC-V ecosystem at the moment, but wh

> Do not forget to preorder, to get the unbelievably low price listed in their announcement. I don't know much about the RISC-V ecosystem at the moment, but what do you consider an "unbelievably low price"? They SoC appears to be £5 to pre-order (EDIT: £5 is for a 20% off coupon), but the motherboard to use it on appears to be ~£1200. Is this considered a good deal for RISC-V right now?

brucehoult 3y ago
> but the motherboard to use it on appears to be ~£1200 Not sure what you're looking at as you didn't give a link, but perhaps you're confusing Pioneer and Oasis? The 64 core Pioneer prebuilt with case, power supply, SSD, video card, 128 GB RAM for $2500 is quite reasonably priced against commercially built 16 core x86 machines, if your workload can keep 64 cores busy. Each core is around 1/4 the speed of current x86, but there are four times as many. Don't forget 64 core x86 is $5000 just for the chip.
- alias_neo 3y ago
  I clicked through the GP's second link and the pre-order link which took me here: https://arace.tech/products/pre-order-milk-v-oasis-16-core-risc-v-desktop-coupon https://arace.tech/products/pre-order-milk-v-oasis-16-core-r... This appears to be the (voucher for the) "chip" but I don't see any board to mount it on other than the Pioneer. Again, I admit I know nothing about the RISC-V ecosystem so apologies, I'm just curious.
  - snvzz 3y ago
    To clarify, Milk-V Oasis is the board, not the chip. The chip is SG2380, and it comes soldered onto the board. Thus the preorder is for the board, which includes the chip. This is a Mini-ITX board, and you're meant to provide RAM, storage, power supply, case and whatever else needed.
camel-cdr 3y ago
The unbelievably low price price milk-v listed was $120. Sipeed mentioned something abour $300. I presume that the milk-v one might be just the cpu+motherboard, and sipeed included ram and gpu in the price, but thats all speculation. If it's anywhere in the $300 range I'd be very happy. Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level, so you get what the rp5 has, but you get way more cores.
- alias_neo 3y ago
  Interesting, and what form factor is this in? Are we talking mATX/ITX style board as opposed to an SBC?
  - camel-cdr 3y ago
    It says mini ITX: https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-with-sg2380-a-revolutionary-risc-v-desktop-experience/780 https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-wi...
    - alias_neo 3y ago
      That makes sense, and sounds like an excellent deal.
- brucehoult 3y ago
  > Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level, A78 level, 12 SPECint2006/GHz. It's P470 (Horse Creek, if it ever appears) and Dubhe-90 that are at A76 8 SPECInt2006/GHz level. And, for completeness, P870 is 18 SPECInt2006/GHz.

brucehoult 3y ago

> but the motherboard to use it on appears to be ~£1200 Not sure what you're looking at as you didn't give a link, but perhaps you're confusing Pioneer and Oasis? The 64 core Pioneer prebuilt with case, power supply, SSD, video card, 128 GB RAM for $2500 is quite reasonably priced against commercially built 16 core x86 machines, if your workload can keep 64 cores busy. Each core is around 1/4 the speed of current x86, but there are four times as many. Don't forget 64 core x86 is $5000 just for the chip.

alias_neo 3y ago
I clicked through the GP's second link and the pre-order link which took me here: https://arace.tech/products/pre-order-milk-v-oasis-16-core-risc-v-desktop-coupon https://arace.tech/products/pre-order-milk-v-oasis-16-core-r... This appears to be the (voucher for the) "chip" but I don't see any board to mount it on other than the Pioneer. Again, I admit I know nothing about the RISC-V ecosystem so apologies, I'm just curious.
- snvzz 3y ago
  To clarify, Milk-V Oasis is the board, not the chip. The chip is SG2380, and it comes soldered onto the board. Thus the preorder is for the board, which includes the chip. This is a Mini-ITX board, and you're meant to provide RAM, storage, power supply, case and whatever else needed.

camel-cdr 3y ago

The unbelievably low price price milk-v listed was $120. Sipeed mentioned something abour $300. I presume that the milk-v one might be just the cpu+motherboard, and sipeed included ram and gpu in the price, but thats all speculation. If it's anywhere in the $300 range I'd be very happy. Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level, so you get what the rp5 has, but you get way more cores.

alias_neo 3y ago
Interesting, and what form factor is this in? Are we talking mATX/ITX style board as opposed to an SBC?
- camel-cdr 3y ago
  It says mini ITX: https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-with-sg2380-a-revolutionary-risc-v-desktop-experience/780 https://community.milkv.io/t/introducing-the-milk-v-oasis-wi...
  - alias_neo 3y ago
    That makes sense, and sounds like an excellent deal.
brucehoult 3y ago
> Just for scale the specint numbers from the P670 are on Cortex A76 level, A78 level, 12 SPECint2006/GHz. It's P470 (Horse Creek, if it ever appears) and Dubhe-90 that are at A76 8 SPECInt2006/GHz level. And, for completeness, P870 is 18 SPECInt2006/GHz.