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> Toasters are refined brilliance, if done right. The concept of "done" is computed using an analog computer programmed by human experts. That hasn't been the
by arghwhat 3y ago
> Toasters are refined brilliance, if done right. The concept of "done" is computed using an analog computer programmed by human experts.
That hasn't been the case in ages. Modern cheap toasters use a dedicated toaster chip (... yes), which is a plain timer but with built-in retained heat compensation for when the toaster is used back-to-back. Fewer components equals cheaper toaster.
A very fancy toaster would have sensor for the bread (mimicking the Sunbeam) rather than a timer, but that's not common.
Either way, any toaster you buy today is a digital computer. :)
- tim333 3y agoGosh I didn't know there were toaster chips but it seems so. One here 8 pin package with pin 3 being the bagel pin. https://www.diodes.com/assets/Datasheets/PT8A2514A.pdf https://www.diodes.com/assets/Datasheets/PT8A2514A.pdf
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoIntel makes pretty good toaster chips too. https://www.overclock.net/threads/worried-about-13900k-temperatures-always-hits-100%C2%BAc.1807823/ https://www.overclock.net/threads/worried-about-13900k-tempe...
- GTP 3y agoYes, but too expensive for my taste.
- grepfru_it 3y agoIntel is tame. My Ryzen 9 operates at 90C and is considered normal
- mst 3y agoI wonder if my first gen. Athlon 850 still runs, and if so what (other than itself) I could potentially cook with it.
- arghwhat 3y agoA few hundred degrees celsius off mate.
- crabmusket 3y agoSeeing "BAGEL" on a pinout diagram is very cute. > As input, requires a positive pulse to active "Bagel" function. > As output, gives a "Bagel" function indicator, active high.
- sgarland 3y agoI have wondered for the longest time what the BAGEL button actually did, because on my cheap toaster, it seems to do very little. Unfortunately I still have more questions after reading the schematic. SW4 (BAGEL) allows current flow through R9/LED3 (BAGEL) which raises Vbe on Q2, forward biasing it, allowing current flow through Q2, dropping Vcs. Meanwhile, power has been flowing through the main switch, with RL3/RL4 making a voltage divider. That main power flows to D1, forward biasing it, and then hits the cathode of D4, reverse biasing it, and allows Relay 1 to hold main power closed. The cathode of D4 also tees off to inputs on Relay 2, and the cathode of D5 (whose anode is fed by both another input on Relay 2, and the source of Q2). So, when Q2’s Vcs drops due to it turning on, D5 presumably reverse biases, so the only input felt on Relay 2-2 is from D1. And Relay 2 does… something. If anyone else can explain, I’d be grateful.
- lorax 3y agoThe bagel button makes only one side of the slot get hot (or at least makes one side hotter than the other). Your toaster probably has a bagel icon on the top showing you which way to put the bagel in (cut side towards the center in every toaster I have seen). Source: I'm not married to toaster moguls but I do peer into operating toasters to see which wires turn red. Feel free to replicate my research and post your observations.
- sgarland 3y agoMine doesn’t have a bagel icon, but I do put them cut-side towards the center. Looking closely during operation, the elements facing out from the center didn’t appear to change color with the bagel button depressed. It toasts the bagel just fine (as well as bread), though. I should get a wattmeter and see if power draw changes.
- dublin 3y agoI don't think I've ever before been party to any conversation where the words "toaster mogul" ever appeared in the exchange, and yet, here they are, in all their golden brown and delicious glory!
- terom 3y agohttps://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Diodes-Incorporated/PT8A2514APE?qs=iC14BvcgY%2F2jW3uqlZRovg%3D%3D https://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Diodes-Incorporated/PT8A... Now I want to buy a couple... 0.856 € unit price for 1pcs, available in stock. New evil plan: corner the market on toaster controller ICs and build up a strategic reserve to resell to manufacturers at inflated prices.
- tensility 3y agoOf course, there's also the June "toaster oven". ;-)