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>washing machines Among your examples I think this one is interesting. Speed Queen is regarded as among the best washing machines + dryers and they are made i

by Dig1t 3y ago

>washing machines Among your examples I think this one is interesting. Speed Queen is regarded as among the best washing machines + dryers and they are made in the US. They are extremely well built, they feel really sturdy to use and also are known for being extremely reliable. I guess what I'm imagining is the Speed Queen of toasters..

sumoboy 3y ago
Just don't use any plastic parts, over-engineer the whole thing internally, no wifi, just a dial for temp and lever to engage. All these fancy toasters still can't toast bread.
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- herbst 3y ago
  If you do WiFi, do it right. Nobody wants to install a toaster app but many Devs would enjoy a little API for their toasters
  - janalsncm 3y ago
    I would imagine the percent of people who are looking to buy an expensive toaster is small, the percentage of those customers who know how to code is even smaller, and the percentage of those programmer customers who have time to and are also interested in programming their toaster is vanishingly small.
    - herbst 3y ago
      You might be right but I highly believe that it would increase in popularity once you have more local only devices in this space. I have plenty smart devices with stupid apps, but I would pay premium for a quality product with a simple API and no third party servers anytime. Personally I base many buying decisions around 'hackability' Edit:// actually I think this is a coming market as Google only recently started to support smart devices without third party servers for their home app so before that local only ment no Google home most of the time.
  - beAbU 3y ago
    I am honestly struggling to find any use case to an iot toaster. Keen to understand what you have in mind.
    - herbst 3y ago
      Smart timer, finish notifications and statistics. Nothing would make my breakfast better, but I surely cannot be the only one who would pay more for a device like that. Maybe I am..
kfrzcode 3y ago
Or the old-school KitchenAid mixers
- Finnucane 3y ago
  https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/food-prep/mixers/n50-5-quart-mixer https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/food-prep/mixers/n50-5-q...
  - EasyMark 3y ago
    any small kitchen appliance that says "ask for a quote" is probably gonna be outta my hobby kitchen/cooking budget
    - Finnucane 3y ago
      Yeah, an N50 is around $4500. A Kitchenaid is like 1/10th of that. The original KA was the domestic version of the Hobart.
Finnucane 3y ago
We bought a set of Speed Queens a couple of years ago and they've worked out pretty well so far. No IoT crap. Not cheap, but not really more than, say, a Bosch or something of that ilk. For a toaster, what you need to do is recreate the Greatest Toaster of All Time, the Sunbeam T-20. (And then after you do that, recreate the Sunbeam CG-1 waffle iron.)
thatfrenchguy 3y ago
They’re also known to use a ton of water, be extremely inefficient, and destroy your clothing much faster than a modern washer. Fetishizing “the good old simple times” isn’t going to get us to better products.
- chubot 3y ago
  citation? I never heard of Speed Queen, or even seen one, but someone recommended them on here a few weeks ago
  - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
    I’ve only ever seen Speed Queens in laundromats in Eastern Europe. I will grant them this: the branding is not lying, they are fast as fuck.
    - Symbiote 3y ago
      I've only used them very occasionally in laundromats when travelling. They are fast, but the clothes aren't cleaned properly.
      - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
        I had no trouble with them cleaning some heavily dirty clothing (from doing construction works), I guess mileage may vary somewhat. I did notice that the dryers (which I think are the same brand) have a hard time properly drying some articles such as thick wool socks within their programmed time.
  - Glawen 3y ago
    I'm in Europe so we don't have these, but I got interested in what are speed queen. Turns out they are laundromat machines that are also sold for residential use. This article does say it is not an efficient machine. they tweaked the normal cycle to pass the DoE efficiency test (but your clothes are not washed), and left alone the inefficient cycles which are not checked by DoE: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/speed-queen-review/ https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/speed-queen-revie...

by Dig1t 3y ago

sumoboy 3y ago

Just don't use any plastic parts, over-engineer the whole thing internally, no wifi, just a dial for temp and lever to engage. All these fancy toasters still can't toast bread.

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herbst 3y ago
If you do WiFi, do it right. Nobody wants to install a toaster app but many Devs would enjoy a little API for their toasters
- janalsncm 3y ago
  I would imagine the percent of people who are looking to buy an expensive toaster is small, the percentage of those customers who know how to code is even smaller, and the percentage of those programmer customers who have time to and are also interested in programming their toaster is vanishingly small.
  - herbst 3y ago
    You might be right but I highly believe that it would increase in popularity once you have more local only devices in this space. I have plenty smart devices with stupid apps, but I would pay premium for a quality product with a simple API and no third party servers anytime. Personally I base many buying decisions around 'hackability' Edit:// actually I think this is a coming market as Google only recently started to support smart devices without third party servers for their home app so before that local only ment no Google home most of the time.
- beAbU 3y ago
  I am honestly struggling to find any use case to an iot toaster. Keen to understand what you have in mind.
  - herbst 3y ago
    Smart timer, finish notifications and statistics. Nothing would make my breakfast better, but I surely cannot be the only one who would pay more for a device like that. Maybe I am..

kfrzcode 3y ago

Or the old-school KitchenAid mixers

Finnucane 3y ago
https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/food-prep/mixers/n50-5-quart-mixer https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/food-prep/mixers/n50-5-q...
- EasyMark 3y ago
  any small kitchen appliance that says "ask for a quote" is probably gonna be outta my hobby kitchen/cooking budget
  - Finnucane 3y ago
    Yeah, an N50 is around $4500. A Kitchenaid is like 1/10th of that. The original KA was the domestic version of the Hobart.

Finnucane 3y ago

We bought a set of Speed Queens a couple of years ago and they've worked out pretty well so far. No IoT crap. Not cheap, but not really more than, say, a Bosch or something of that ilk. For a toaster, what you need to do is recreate the Greatest Toaster of All Time, the Sunbeam T-20. (And then after you do that, recreate the Sunbeam CG-1 waffle iron.)

thatfrenchguy 3y ago

They’re also known to use a ton of water, be extremely inefficient, and destroy your clothing much faster than a modern washer. Fetishizing “the good old simple times” isn’t going to get us to better products.

chubot 3y ago
citation? I never heard of Speed Queen, or even seen one, but someone recommended them on here a few weeks ago
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  I’ve only ever seen Speed Queens in laundromats in Eastern Europe. I will grant them this: the branding is not lying, they are fast as fuck.
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    I've only used them very occasionally in laundromats when travelling. They are fast, but the clothes aren't cleaned properly.
    - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
      I had no trouble with them cleaning some heavily dirty clothing (from doing construction works), I guess mileage may vary somewhat. I did notice that the dryers (which I think are the same brand) have a hard time properly drying some articles such as thick wool socks within their programmed time.
- Glawen 3y ago
  I'm in Europe so we don't have these, but I got interested in what are speed queen. Turns out they are laundromat machines that are also sold for residential use. This article does say it is not an efficient machine. they tweaked the normal cycle to pass the DoE efficiency test (but your clothes are not washed), and left alone the inefficient cycles which are not checked by DoE: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/speed-queen-review/ https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/speed-queen-revie...