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Wish posts that require a login would at least appear in the feed. That would be like RSS feeds from a site with a paywall. If I logged into BS from my RSS re

by gumby 3y ago

Wish posts that require a login would at least appear in the feed. That would be like RSS feeds from a site with a paywall. If I logged into BS from my RSS reader I'd be able to see them.

jazzyjackson 3y ago
Now that you mention it Bluesky might actually find some adoption if they allowed monetizing private feeds (Is twitter doing this? I know you can monetize via subscriptions but AFAIK it's not a paywall, more of a tip). They'd compete for marketshare with patreon, substack and onlyfans combined.
- brundolf 3y ago
  The Bluesky protocol doesn't really allow non-public posts (which is why blocking doesn't work the way some people would like it to, and why there can't be features like Circles) I believe Twitter does support paid private posts that you can subscribe to, but I've never seen anyone I follow use it
- ivanmontillam 3y ago
  There are Telegram bots that do paywall private channels, a few examples I can mention: - InviteMember (accepts most payment methods, including Stripe) - CanalFans (accepts only USDT, and it's only available in Spanish, South American focused) The way they work is that you add them to your private channel and the bot executes the sale, invites the member and kicks them out if they don't renew their subscription. Of course they take a commission on the sales.
  - mananaysiempre 3y ago
    On a small scale, it’s probably also quite straightforward to roll your own using Telegram’s built-in bot payments API (which acts as a gateway to a number of processors including Stripe). Not sure if one should, but it’s a possibility.
    - ivanmontillam 3y ago
      I've looked into it from the technical side, and it's not that straightforward. I mean, yes, it's on the scope of a toy project, but it's definitely not on the scope of a weekend project. My software development estimation looks like at least 2-3 months with at least 3 hours daily on the IDE (on the Subscription Management side, ignoring the payment gateway, that as you mentioned: it's on Telegram already).
- gumby 3y ago
  Substack has this working. I have some paid substack blogs in my RSS feed. Some give you part of the post in the feed and then you have to click on the post to see the rest (in you’re a subscriber, else not). Others just say “click here to read” and again, if you are a subscriber (I am) you see the post.
  - atdrummond 3y ago
    I’m surprised they don’t just use private RSS feeds for posts like they do for podcasts.
    - gumby 3y ago
      This approach acts like a sales tool, which I think is better all around.
consumer451 3y ago
Yeah, that's kind of janky. Because in Bsky, there is a user setting to ~"ask clients to respect login required." However, there are things like firesky.tv which access AT Protocol directly and I believe don't respect that setting. You can make a user RSS feed from firesky by using Filter and setting a user handle. At least I think I am responding to your issue...

by gumby 3y ago

Wish posts that require a login would at least appear in the feed. That would be like RSS feeds from a site with a paywall. If I logged into BS from my RSS reader I'd be able to see them.

jazzyjackson 3y ago

Now that you mention it Bluesky might actually find some adoption if they allowed monetizing private feeds (Is twitter doing this? I know you can monetize via subscriptions but AFAIK it's not a paywall, more of a tip). They'd compete for marketshare with patreon, substack and onlyfans combined.

brundolf 3y ago
The Bluesky protocol doesn't really allow non-public posts (which is why blocking doesn't work the way some people would like it to, and why there can't be features like Circles) I believe Twitter does support paid private posts that you can subscribe to, but I've never seen anyone I follow use it
ivanmontillam 3y ago
There are Telegram bots that do paywall private channels, a few examples I can mention: - InviteMember (accepts most payment methods, including Stripe) - CanalFans (accepts only USDT, and it's only available in Spanish, South American focused) The way they work is that you add them to your private channel and the bot executes the sale, invites the member and kicks them out if they don't renew their subscription. Of course they take a commission on the sales.
- mananaysiempre 3y ago
  On a small scale, it’s probably also quite straightforward to roll your own using Telegram’s built-in bot payments API (which acts as a gateway to a number of processors including Stripe). Not sure if one should, but it’s a possibility.
  - ivanmontillam 3y ago
    I've looked into it from the technical side, and it's not that straightforward. I mean, yes, it's on the scope of a toy project, but it's definitely not on the scope of a weekend project. My software development estimation looks like at least 2-3 months with at least 3 hours daily on the IDE (on the Subscription Management side, ignoring the payment gateway, that as you mentioned: it's on Telegram already).
gumby 3y ago
Substack has this working. I have some paid substack blogs in my RSS feed. Some give you part of the post in the feed and then you have to click on the post to see the rest (in you’re a subscriber, else not). Others just say “click here to read” and again, if you are a subscriber (I am) you see the post.
- atdrummond 3y ago
  I’m surprised they don’t just use private RSS feeds for posts like they do for podcasts.
  - gumby 3y ago
    This approach acts like a sales tool, which I think is better all around.

consumer451 3y ago

Yeah, that's kind of janky. Because in Bsky, there is a user setting to ~"ask clients to respect login required." However, there are things like firesky.tv which access AT Protocol directly and I believe don't respect that setting. You can make a user RSS feed from firesky by using Filter and setting a user handle. At least I think I am responding to your issue...