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Calling this “retaliation” is rather dramatic. There are a number of communication platforms that don’t allow 3rd party apps to access their networks and will b

Calling this “retaliation” is rather dramatic. There are a number of communication platforms that don’t allow 3rd party apps to access their networks and will ban people who attempt it.

kevingadd 3y ago
What would you call it other than retaliation? Punishment? Surprise behavior?
- KerrAvon 3y ago
  Expected behavior.
- eddieroger 3y ago
  Consequence for acting against Apple's terms of service.
  - heyoni 3y ago
    Everybody be on the lookout for ToS breakers! The scum must be outed, shamed and alienated. No one should feel sorry for them and we should all compare their actions to piracy or cheating in a video game. Clearly these “beeper” using are infiltrating the platform so they can spam our legitimate users by purchasing $3000 laptops and claiming that they’re only using said app for convenience! Round them up boys! PS: my iMessage account was flagged for sending spam (never happened) and unsolicited messages from a legit device. Apple can’t tell where the messages are coming from is what that means.
- threeseed 3y ago
  Protecting the security and integrity of the platform. I fully support interoperability. But it needs to be done through regulation and standards. Not through intentional abuse of the platform for monetary gains.
  - o11c 3y ago
    Protecting imaginary security is no protection at all. If Apple doesn't like the particular way Beeper works, they're free to give them a better API to use.
    - ntqvm 3y ago
      They are free to give them the hammer too.
- crazygringo 3y ago
  It's just banning. It's no different than if you get caught running cheat software in an online game. The company isn't "retaliating" against you, or even "punishing" you -- they're just banning you. You broke the rules and that's what happens.
  - bscphil 3y ago
    This site rightly has a different attitude when, say, HP remotely bricks working printers because someone used unauthorized ink. We don't sit back and say "you broke the rules and that's what happens."
    - dmz73 3y ago
      You cannot argue with Apple users on any topic that is critical of Apple. For them, Apple can do no wrong. If Apple hardware breaks due to manufacturing fault, they will criticize the person for not buying Apple-care and then suggest just buying another Apple device. Apple is their identify. In this case iMessage is the safe haven that they can trust and allowing external (non-Apple) users would violate that feeling of safety.
      - ok_dad 3y ago
        Jeez, you’re painting with a broad brush here. I use Apple products and like them but I think they should open stuff up more. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time I used to for dealing with tech issues on Linux or the other open source stuff, so I buy Apple which is certainly better to customers than Microsoft, for example. I don’t get where the idea that Apple users are zombies came from. Apple users like the products and services Apple provides, nothing else, there’s no ulterior motive there.
        paulmd 3y ago
        I've remarked many times but it's absolutely insane just how casually android users drop the "apple SHEEPLE" or "brainless blue bubbles" shit. It's so absolutely completely normalized that they don't even comprehend that it might be offensive to the people actually in the discussion with them. statistically speaking about half this site probably has apple and most people have very specific reasons for picking them. And they've been hearing people exactly like GP casually dump on them for years - even if a particular person isn't being this direct and coarse about it, they know that's the thought process underneath. After a while it's just another microaggression, and since they're micro you're not really supposed to call them out or act on them, but again, everyone knows what the score really is.

Calling this “retaliation” is rather dramatic. There are a number of communication platforms that don’t allow 3rd party apps to access their networks and will ban people who attempt it.

kevingadd 3y ago

What would you call it other than retaliation? Punishment? Surprise behavior?

KerrAvon 3y ago
Expected behavior.
eddieroger 3y ago
Consequence for acting against Apple's terms of service.
- heyoni 3y ago
  Everybody be on the lookout for ToS breakers! The scum must be outed, shamed and alienated. No one should feel sorry for them and we should all compare their actions to piracy or cheating in a video game. Clearly these “beeper” using are infiltrating the platform so they can spam our legitimate users by purchasing $3000 laptops and claiming that they’re only using said app for convenience! Round them up boys! PS: my iMessage account was flagged for sending spam (never happened) and unsolicited messages from a legit device. Apple can’t tell where the messages are coming from is what that means.
threeseed 3y ago
Protecting the security and integrity of the platform. I fully support interoperability. But it needs to be done through regulation and standards. Not through intentional abuse of the platform for monetary gains.
- o11c 3y ago
  Protecting imaginary security is no protection at all. If Apple doesn't like the particular way Beeper works, they're free to give them a better API to use.
  - ntqvm 3y ago
    They are free to give them the hammer too.
crazygringo 3y ago
It's just banning. It's no different than if you get caught running cheat software in an online game. The company isn't "retaliating" against you, or even "punishing" you -- they're just banning you. You broke the rules and that's what happens.
- bscphil 3y ago
  This site rightly has a different attitude when, say, HP remotely bricks working printers because someone used unauthorized ink. We don't sit back and say "you broke the rules and that's what happens."
  - dmz73 3y ago
    You cannot argue with Apple users on any topic that is critical of Apple. For them, Apple can do no wrong. If Apple hardware breaks due to manufacturing fault, they will criticize the person for not buying Apple-care and then suggest just buying another Apple device. Apple is their identify. In this case iMessage is the safe haven that they can trust and allowing external (non-Apple) users would violate that feeling of safety.
    - ok_dad 3y ago
      Jeez, you’re painting with a broad brush here. I use Apple products and like them but I think they should open stuff up more. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time I used to for dealing with tech issues on Linux or the other open source stuff, so I buy Apple which is certainly better to customers than Microsoft, for example. I don’t get where the idea that Apple users are zombies came from. Apple users like the products and services Apple provides, nothing else, there’s no ulterior motive there.
      - paulmd 3y ago
        I've remarked many times but it's absolutely insane just how casually android users drop the "apple SHEEPLE" or "brainless blue bubbles" shit. It's so absolutely completely normalized that they don't even comprehend that it might be offensive to the people actually in the discussion with them. statistically speaking about half this site probably has apple and most people have very specific reasons for picking them. And they've been hearing people exactly like GP casually dump on them for years - even if a particular person isn't being this direct and coarse about it, they know that's the thought process underneath. After a while it's just another microaggression, and since they're micro you're not really supposed to call them out or act on them, but again, everyone knows what the score really is.