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I’m very curious to see if/how Apple will “bully” anyone who installs apps from a 3th party AppStore - in other words, nudge them back to Apple’s native AppStor

I’m very curious to see if/how Apple will “bully” anyone who installs apps from a 3th party AppStore - in other words, nudge them back to Apple’s native AppStore. Much like how Spotify has been painful to use the past 10 years, compared to Apple Music, for example. AirPlay did work in Spotify, but not natively on the HomePod like Apple Music, etc.

bzzzt 3y ago
If anything is painful it's the complete bag of shit the Apple Music app is. Spotify doesn't have the best UI, but it's a lot less infuriating to navigate. You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod and I don't see how that's related with the App Store. If you want Spotify there are lots of other speakers with Spotify connect and no Apple Music - should they be regulated too or is it just about punishing Apple?
- DavideNL 3y ago
  > ”You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod” Why not? It’s already possible to do this _now_, the limitation was just another example of Apple crippling competitors… (Spotify has not implemented it in their app yet, but other music apps have.) You can also now set the default Music app HomePod/Siri will use. Luckily EU regulators and others are stepping in to stop Apple in this anti-competitive behavior.
- blackoil 3y ago
  > You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod Technically, they can provide a standard interface and registration for music apps to comply with. Legally, if EU believes iPhone via Airplay is being used by Apple to give Music unfair advantage over competition, they can require this or ask Music to be split in a different company.
graftak 3y ago
Spotify not working properly on HomePod is on them because the tools to properly integrate third party music apps have been available for almost 5 years now. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/tech-talks/10854/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/tech-talks/10854/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/207 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/207
- DavideNL 3y ago
  Yea, they are refusing to implement it now; I can kind of understand why they have "given up" though, after all of Apple's anti-competitive behavior. This won't change, so It's just not worth the effort.

bzzzt 3y ago

If anything is painful it's the complete bag of shit the Apple Music app is. Spotify doesn't have the best UI, but it's a lot less infuriating to navigate. You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod and I don't see how that's related with the App Store. If you want Spotify there are lots of other speakers with Spotify connect and no Apple Music - should they be regulated too or is it just about punishing Apple?

DavideNL 3y ago
> ”You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod” Why not? It’s already possible to do this _now_, the limitation was just another example of Apple crippling competitors… (Spotify has not implemented it in their app yet, but other music apps have.) You can also now set the default Music app HomePod/Siri will use. Luckily EU regulators and others are stepping in to stop Apple in this anti-competitive behavior.
blackoil 3y ago
> You can't expect Apple to integrate every music service on the HomePod Technically, they can provide a standard interface and registration for music apps to comply with. Legally, if EU believes iPhone via Airplay is being used by Apple to give Music unfair advantage over competition, they can require this or ask Music to be split in a different company.

graftak 3y ago

Spotify not working properly on HomePod is on them because the tools to properly integrate third party music apps have been available for almost 5 years now. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/tech-talks/10854/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/tech-talks/10854/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/207 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/207

DavideNL 3y ago
Yea, they are refusing to implement it now; I can kind of understand why they have "given up" though, after all of Apple's anti-competitive behavior. This won't change, so It's just not worth the effort.