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God that thread is infuriating. If they're so worried about apps from outside the Apple App Store being insecure, and want to stick to only installing apps that
by logicprog 3y ago
God that thread is infuriating. If they're so worried about apps from outside the Apple App Store being insecure, and want to stick to only installing apps that Apple has approved, then they can literally just limit themselves to only using the Apple App Store and be literally just as "safe" as they were before, with zero difference. They're not forced to get anything from outside the Apple App Store just because the option exists. What, are they infants who can't control themselves? And if other people are using it, so what? Are other people going to install apps on their phones somehow? No, they're not. So others having extra choices they don't want to use doesn't effect them. It's like complaining that your house is made less secure because other people haven't installed a 24/7 surveillance camera and six deadbolts and bullet proof glass like you have. But this is how Apple's propaganda has taught their cultists to think: through learned helplessness. "I need as many choices as possible taken away from me to make sure I'm all safe and secure." Like, no, security (and ease of use) is about having excellent, solid defaults most people won't need to change, NOT about taking away more advanced options.
- endisneigh 3y agoWhat you’re saying isn’t actually true though. Sufficiently popular apps could force users to use alternative methods.
- logicprog 3y agoMaybe, but that's a very limited collection of apps, and I would imagine that such sufficiently popular and well-known apps would actually have a reputation to uphold and proper technical support to ensure that installation is properly verified and that their apps don't contain viruses. Maybe more surveillance might get through, but the solution to that is to have a better sandboxing and permissions model that prevents unwanted data collection by default, since app sandboxing isn't possible to get around by just having your app be downloaded from somewhere else, since it all still has to run on the same phone.
- lnxg33k1 3y agoDo you think that meta will give up their presence on the official app store in order to move to a unofficial app store? Because apple will not allow apps on apple app store if they appear on unofficial, i have no data, but I suspect they will not
- dylan604 3y agoI suspect they will offer different apps. The official one on the app store becomes limited or doesn't change at all. The app released via other stores will be Zuck's wet dream of a Hoover of all your things. There will be no limitations on tracking. There will be no limitations on what parts of the system can be accessed. Even if the OS puts up road blocks, Zuck will just ask the user for permission and they will all be granted. Even if it is something the official app store would ban from publishing if they were accessed. Do you honestly believe they wouldn't? If so, I have a bridge for sale
- lnxg33k1 3y agoWe just have to see it, I have a doubt that apple will be fooled by meta calling whatsapp in a different way, but no certainty, most recently some people were convinced that apple had no solution but allow a unofficial android app on iMessage, and we saw what happened, something tells me theyre harder to fool than it seems
- dylan604 3y agohow would releasing an app on a 3rd party app store that Apple has no control over be "fooling" Apple? I'm suggesting theZuck continues releasing apps on the Apple store just like now playing by whatever rules the app store comes with. At the same time, releasing a different app on 3rd party stores that does the things that Apple prevents. What are you confused by to think they are trying to fool Apple?
- lnxg33k1 3y ago
- paulddraper 3y agoIf an app has sufficient popularity to force people off of App Store, it probably isn't buggy/low quality.
- lern_too_spel 3y agoThis hasn't happened on Android. Amazon tried.
- fraencko 3y agoWhat about Fortnite?
- lern_too_spel 3y agoFortnite isn't available on iOS at all. It doesn't represent an app that would be in the app store if another option weren't available.