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Can't wait to not use anything but the official app store. I'm paying extra for the walled garden, not despite it!
by FredPret 3y ago
Can't wait to not use anything but the official app store. I'm paying extra for the walled garden, not despite it!
- ethbr1 3y agoThat's a great choice to be able to make.
- FredPret 3y agoI could always buy an Android. The walled garden is one of Apple's (on mobile at least) selling points
- lnxg33k1 3y agoWhere is this walled garden claim on their marketing stuff?
- dcwca 3y agoSecurity and privacy mentioned constantly throughout marketing materials
- lnxg33k1 3y agoSo their macbooks are insecure because they accept any package installed? Seems like a weak argument and an even weaker security model, has it worked ever security through obscurity/ black box? Should I avoid surfing through the web on non approved websites? Seems like they made a weak system security wise
- mdhb 3y agoIt’s because it is actually a somewhat bullshit security model that basically boils down to checking what APIs are you using in your code. The next generation of runtimes (wasm for example) have this built in out of the box.
- ethbr1 3y agoI can't take "the lack of a choice is a feature" seriously. For corporate managed devices, sure. But for personal devices? If you're happy with the defaults... don't ever change the defaults! But someone else being able to make a different choice doesn't decrease your happiness.
- TheCaptain4815 3y agoLots of apps get censored on the official store that I'm happy will be brought back on my Iphone.
- askonomm 3y agoYeah same. Never understood why people need multiple stores on an iPhone when they could just use Android instead.
- paulddraper 3y agoiOS and Android are fairly different platforms. There's a lot that works with one but not the other.
- ThatPlayer 3y agoIt's simple: I believe it would be an improvement It's no different than "I want a folding screen iPhone" or "I want an iPhone with a bigger battery/screen/camera/whatever". A year ago I'd say USB-C iPhone. "Just get an Android" or more generally "why don't you leave" is a fallacy that doesn't actually address any criticisms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_decedo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_decedo
- askonomm 3y agoIs EU also forcing companies that don't make folding phones to make folding phones because people want them? Or ferraris to make minivans? This argument doesn't make a lot of sense. You may want the world, why would a for-profit entity have to bend over for you? This seems to me to just be another way to control what you do - no longer can you start a company with your vision, you can only start a company that fits someone elses vision, like European Union's vision. Free will is a thing of the past.
- FredPret 3y agoRemember that this is only happening because Apple wants to continue selling in the EU. Every year, the EU’s economic importance declines, partly due to stunts like this one. So at some point (far in the future unfortunately), their diktats will simply be ignored.
- devnullbrain 3y agoDo you make the same choice on Windows?
- FredPret 3y agoI like my phone experience to be simple and intuitive. It really lends itself to a walled approach. I'm out doing something else, and the phone is along for the ride. On desktop, I have a keyboard, a big screen, and more time. I'm sitting down to work on the computer, so having to pay more attention to it is completely fine (for nerds like me). So the walled garden approach feels more restrictive than empowering in this context, at least for me.
- dvfjsdhgfv 3y agoI see your point and will also continue to use Apple's one except for a few apps such as emulators and a couple of others that Apple banned.
- karl-j 3y agoI might have agreed with you if Apple was a good gardener. That would involve weeding out the scams in the app store, giving developers feedback on radars, and being more communicative and reasonable in app review.
- paulddraper 3y ago> Can't wait to not use anything but the official app store. But you don't have to wait, right??
- whywhywhywhy 3y agoFeels more like a walled trash heap these days tbh. All the innovation is happening outside it.
- nozzlegear 3y agoIt will be interesting to see if Facebook decides to release their own app store, replete with all of the tracking that Apple had been taking away. If they make their apps only available through that kind of custom app store and then "encourage" FB/Insta/WhatsApp users to migrate, it defeats the walled garden.
- CharlesW 3y agoMeta and other Big Tech corpos will naturally have their own app stores, and distribute their apps through them exclusively once they can. A year from the release of this capability, EU users will have 20 additional app stores on their phone. Each will be sending notifications, coordinating "enhanced user tracking" between their apps and partner apps, advertising additional 1st- and 3rd-party products, performing background tasks like polling for updates, etc. Paradise!
- Krssst 3y agoDid not happen on Android.
- CharlesW 3y agoBecause you can’t download alternate app stores directly from Google’s Play Store. This is a really interesting point — if the EU doesn’t require Apple to allow competitive app stores on App Store, discovery barriers largely neuter potential impacts.