> Of course, the Scrum proponents will rush in and tell me that we were doing it wrong I don't think it's helpful in any discussion to try and pre-emptively di

> Of course, the Scrum proponents will rush in and tell me that we were doing it wrong I don't think it's helpful in any discussion to try and pre-emptively dismiss people who might disagree. People have been doing that for the decade or so scrum has been mainstream and it just dumbs the discussion down to he-said she-said. That being said, agile as it was originally described in the manifesto was not prescriptive, and scrum, while it was intended to follow in its footsteps, has been a victim of its own success. It's now firmly in the domain of other highly-prescriptive management frameworks thanks to the effort of consultants and managers who adhere strictly to the letter of scrum without paying thought to the essence of it. Most people I know who were fans of scrum back in the day have distanced themselves from it because it's not agile any more. Certainly not with consultants selling SAFe as an agile methodology.