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Gnome is 120FPS butter on Javascript. As far as I know, Gnome profiled a bunch of their biggest UI slowdowns and none of them would have been (much) improved o

by jorvi 3y ago

Gnome is 120FPS butter on Javascript. As far as I know, Gnome profiled a bunch of their biggest UI slowdowns and none of them would have been (much) improved on native. Bad code is bad, JavaScript isn’t the main culprit here.

moralestapia 3y ago
This. I've wrote plenty of (very) high performance code using a Javascript/WebGL combo. Most people bitching about JS are not even good coders to start with.
- beebeepka 3y ago
  Truth to be told, there's a lot of terrible js out there, and some of it is mine.
  - taftster 3y ago
    At least you're honest about it. I don't have any JS out there period, so your terrible JS is much better than I could have done.
    - beebeepka 3y ago
      sometimes I do think about my first contributions. how i could have done this and that completely differently. kind of like going to first grade again with what you know (and are) as an adult.
- redeeman 3y ago
  yeah but look at freaking chromium, 3.2GB compressed archive. That is absolutely insane, and cannot be defended in ANY WAY. look at what they started with with webkit? chromium is an abomination the likes of which definitively proves there is no god, or that god HATES humanity, as god would have 100% for sure schmited us all down for the atrocity that is chromium.
  - moralestapia 3y ago
    Yeah, agree with that. I recall reading about a project who was stripping down chromium to its bare essentials, it seemed quite nice but cannot find it atm.
  - jauntywundrkind 3y ago
    Contempt culture is so ugly. The bullshit asymmetry principle is so in play, makes it so hard to reel in or temper the ardent zeal. You're also off by 15x. Installed size is 247MB on Debian. https://packages.debian.org/trixie/chromium https://packages.debian.org/trixie/chromium Chromium is one of the most amazing fully featured bundles of computing the planet has ever built. We should be in awe. But, "this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Contempt is rampant.
    - redeeman 3y ago
      you might want to look at what the source archive costs your diskwise :)
    - nolist_policy 3y ago
      Yes, and people often forget that web browsers provide 100% backwards-compatibility to 100s of legacy web standards. Of course that bloats things up, see also Windows. Also, parent is maybe refering to the source code size? Which also includes a huge chunk of ChromeOS code.

by jorvi 3y ago

moralestapia 3y ago

This. I've wrote plenty of (very) high performance code using a Javascript/WebGL combo. Most people bitching about JS are not even good coders to start with.

beebeepka 3y ago
Truth to be told, there's a lot of terrible js out there, and some of it is mine.
- taftster 3y ago
  At least you're honest about it. I don't have any JS out there period, so your terrible JS is much better than I could have done.
  - beebeepka 3y ago
    sometimes I do think about my first contributions. how i could have done this and that completely differently. kind of like going to first grade again with what you know (and are) as an adult.
redeeman 3y ago
yeah but look at freaking chromium, 3.2GB compressed archive. That is absolutely insane, and cannot be defended in ANY WAY. look at what they started with with webkit? chromium is an abomination the likes of which definitively proves there is no god, or that god HATES humanity, as god would have 100% for sure schmited us all down for the atrocity that is chromium.
- moralestapia 3y ago
  Yeah, agree with that. I recall reading about a project who was stripping down chromium to its bare essentials, it seemed quite nice but cannot find it atm.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  Contempt culture is so ugly. The bullshit asymmetry principle is so in play, makes it so hard to reel in or temper the ardent zeal. You're also off by 15x. Installed size is 247MB on Debian. https://packages.debian.org/trixie/chromium https://packages.debian.org/trixie/chromium Chromium is one of the most amazing fully featured bundles of computing the planet has ever built. We should be in awe. But, "this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Contempt is rampant.
  - redeeman 3y ago
    you might want to look at what the source archive costs your diskwise :)
  - nolist_policy 3y ago
    Yes, and people often forget that web browsers provide 100% backwards-compatibility to 100s of legacy web standards. Of course that bloats things up, see also Windows. Also, parent is maybe refering to the source code size? Which also includes a huge chunk of ChromeOS code.