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Raymond Hill (gorhill), the creator of uBlock Origin, has done some investigation and has found that this only affects AdBlock and AdBlock Plus[0]. Both of whic

Raymond Hill (gorhill), the creator of uBlock Origin, has done some investigation and has found that this only affects AdBlock and AdBlock Plus[0]. Both of which are owned by the same people, and share the same ad blocking engine. uBlock Origin is not affected. I posted this on HN earlier today[1], but it unfortunately gained no traction. I guess outrage spreads easier. Gorhill explicitly points out some websites that spread the outrage, but not the real diagnosed issue. [0] https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919 https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1746263759495077919 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38998419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38998419

goalieca 3y ago
I use ublock origin on Firefox along with a few other privacy extensions. I do not use Adblock. YouTube doesn’t even finish loading the page for me but videos do start playing after 10 seconds or so. I tried without blocking ads but I gave up because the experience was even worse with how many ads there are now.
- ta1243 3y ago
  I use ubo, firefox, ddg and a pi-hole, and haven't noticed any issues with youtube. However I tend to do youtube while signed in, and I also consume youtube on my phone, perhaps they are happy they push enough adverts to my when I use a phone that they ignore the browser use.
- MaKey 3y ago
  YouTube is still working fine for me with Firefox and uBlock Origin.
  - ivanmontillam 3y ago
    Exactly my scenario. Firefox and uBlock Origin (with YouTube Premium). One must be careful with these kinds of posts that imply YouTube is exerting network effect forces on its users as a way to squeeze revenue. I mean, yeah that scenario is plausible, and the slow performance observation can be construed of such an action; however, one must also be careful and play devil's advocate in these ones, for a balanced debate to happen.
  - goalieca 3y ago
    I have privacy badger and DuckDuckGo installed as well. After disabling Both and wiping my cache it still runs slow with just ublock origin.
tokai 3y ago
Except for a pop-up initially I haven't experienced any change using yt with uBlock Origin. If I didn't follow tech news I could easily have overlooked the yt development. Boggles the mind that anyone uses AdBlock & AdBlock Plus. Can't be any other reason than the name squatting.
- another2another 3y ago
  I have no problems with AdBlock plus on FF currently, but using private browsing on Utube since they started detecting ad-blockers. I also generally use Utube less as well, so not so bothered.
  - gorhill 3y ago
    > no problems with AdBlock plus on FF Because it has not been updated to the problematic version, which is 5.17. In fact AdBlock on AMO is still 5.4.2, i.e. 13 versions behind latest official AdBlock version, it was last updated in Feb. 2023.
  - nolongerthere 3y ago
    but AdBlock Plus is owned and operated by an ad company and does all the same shady things that you would normally use an adblocker to avoid. why use an inferior tool?
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goalieca 3y ago

I use ublock origin on Firefox along with a few other privacy extensions. I do not use Adblock. YouTube doesn’t even finish loading the page for me but videos do start playing after 10 seconds or so. I tried without blocking ads but I gave up because the experience was even worse with how many ads there are now.

ta1243 3y ago
I use ubo, firefox, ddg and a pi-hole, and haven't noticed any issues with youtube. However I tend to do youtube while signed in, and I also consume youtube on my phone, perhaps they are happy they push enough adverts to my when I use a phone that they ignore the browser use.
MaKey 3y ago
YouTube is still working fine for me with Firefox and uBlock Origin.
- ivanmontillam 3y ago
  Exactly my scenario. Firefox and uBlock Origin (with YouTube Premium). One must be careful with these kinds of posts that imply YouTube is exerting network effect forces on its users as a way to squeeze revenue. I mean, yeah that scenario is plausible, and the slow performance observation can be construed of such an action; however, one must also be careful and play devil's advocate in these ones, for a balanced debate to happen.
- goalieca 3y ago
  I have privacy badger and DuckDuckGo installed as well. After disabling Both and wiping my cache it still runs slow with just ublock origin.

tokai 3y ago

Except for a pop-up initially I haven't experienced any change using yt with uBlock Origin. If I didn't follow tech news I could easily have overlooked the yt development. Boggles the mind that anyone uses AdBlock & AdBlock Plus. Can't be any other reason than the name squatting.

another2another 3y ago
I have no problems with AdBlock plus on FF currently, but using private browsing on Utube since they started detecting ad-blockers. I also generally use Utube less as well, so not so bothered.
- gorhill 3y ago
  > no problems with AdBlock plus on FF Because it has not been updated to the problematic version, which is 5.17. In fact AdBlock on AMO is still 5.4.2, i.e. 13 versions behind latest official AdBlock version, it was last updated in Feb. 2023.
- nolongerthere 3y ago
  but AdBlock Plus is owned and operated by an ad company and does all the same shady things that you would normally use an adblocker to avoid. why use an inferior tool?

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