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Is this actually affiliated with Roger Penrose? Seems extraordinarily rude to use his name otherwise. Was his permission sought? In fact, this may be seen as "p
by b800h 3y ago
Is this actually affiliated with Roger Penrose? Seems extraordinarily rude to use his name otherwise. Was his permission sought? In fact, this may be seen as "passing off" in English law.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoYou can say the same thing to Haskell, Curry, Ada or (more or less) Python as well.
- b800h 3y agoNeither Ada Lovelace nor Haskell Curry is still alive. And Python is in a different category. It's one thing to use the name of a historical figure, quite another to use the recognisable mark of a living person. Of course, it could all be being done with endorsement, in which case, my comment is invalid, but otherwise it's incredibly rude and a borderline civil tort.
- lifthrasiir 3y agoI also believe that passing off requires a demonstration of a substantial amount of probable damage in the future. The mere existence of a graphical software named Penrose can't do much harm. (If you name a malware after Penrose, that may be the case though.)
- b800h 3y agoWhat about if the software is faulty?
- TeMPOraL 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_(surname) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_(surname) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose There's enough other Penroses to choose from; sir Roger doesn't own the (sur)name.
- b800h 3y agoYes, but his name is the obvious one. If I say "Dyson" and you're in the UK, you think of vacuums, "Penrose" and you think of Mathematical Physics. I doubt this would come to court. The main problem is the temerity of using the name of a living person in this way. But, they could have sought permission, in which case, all is well.
- eigenket 3y agoThe CLI tool which turns their code into pictures is named "roger" as well.
- jonmoore 3y ago> If I say "Dyson" and you're in the UK, you think of Mathematical Physics :)
- ben_w 3y ago> If I say "Dyson" and you're in the UK, you think of vacuums As a British national, I always called that category of cleaning device "hoovers": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hoover_Company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hoover_Company I'm sufficiently nerdy to think "Sphere" whenever the name Dyson comes up, but I'm sure that to most normal people even "Dyson sphere" will mean one of these rather than a K2 civilisation: https://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuum-cleaners/uprights/ball-animal/multi-floor https://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuum-cleaners/uprights/ball-animal...
- A_D_E_P_T 3y agoAt first I thought that he actually had something to do with it! To simply borrow his name is indeed, I think, in pretty poor taste. The trend of naming unrelated products after scientists and inventors (from "Tesla" and "Nikola," to Theranos' "Edison," to "Ada Lovelace," and so forth,) has become unbelievably low-effort and cringe.
- bmitc 3y agoEspecially because Roger Penrose is still alive.
- dolmen 3y agoList of things named after Roger Penrose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Roger_Penrose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Rog...
- sestep 3y agoNot affiliated with Roger Penrose; we often hear this question about our project name: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36749211 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36749211 As Nimo mentioned in a response to that linked thread, we're open to suggestions for alternate names if a different one would better suit the project!
- stephenc123 3y agoAssuming you're the Sam Estep from the team, can you comment whether he's been asked for his opinion on the matter? Especially given the clear linkage with code references: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Apenrose%2Fpenrose%20roger&type=code https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Apenrose%2Fpenrose%20roger... - it seems more personal than Diagram/Graphical Notation/Tiling/Stairs/Triangle etc.