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And yet objective studies of things like quality of life [1], access to medicare [2], and other metrics, always seem completely at odds with claims like yours.

by tensor 3y ago

And yet objective studies of things like quality of life [1], access to medicare [2], and other metrics, always seem completely at odds with claims like yours. We may not be the top in all metrics, but we are far from the "the worst of all developed nations." Data sure is inconvenient when we're spreading hyperbole and misinformation on the internet! [1] https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-... [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5595214/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5595214/

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
data lags tremendously.
pcthrowaway 3y ago
Here's what the "Quality of Life" metric is based on and Canada's scores: * A good job market - 98.4 * Affordable - 15.1 * Economically stable - 98.2. * Family-friendly - 98.5. * Income equality - 61.2. * Politically stable - 91.8. * Safe - 93.2. * Well-developed public education system - 88.7. * Well-developed public health system - 91.2. Anecdotally, affordability and wealth equality (not income equality) are much better indicators of QoL. "Good job market" must be availability of jobs (which has certainly lagged since 2022, when this data is from), not pay relative to cost of living. Myself and most working-class Canadians could do with a bit of political instability right now.
- tensor 3y ago
  If by political instability you mean voting for the part with a big C that will only worsen your position and increase hate and discord among Canadians, then please find your "political instability" elsewhere. Ditto if you think "protesting" means harassing and attacking your fellow Canadians. If you think "political instability" means voting for people who will actually fight for the poor, like the NDP, well, that's not going to cause much instability I'm afraid. But it will help you.
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    Political instability ideally takes the form of holding the government accountable for serving their corporate overlords rather than regular Canadians. I don't think there's a party that represents my interests, but the NDP or Communist party (is this the big C you're referring to?) probably are the closest. NDP is the only one likely to have any influence, but they aren't willing to put forth a serious critique of capitalism in their fight for social equity. Even if they won a majority, I don't think they'd make a dent in the housing crisis.

by tensor 3y ago

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago

data lags tremendously.

pcthrowaway 3y ago

Here's what the "Quality of Life" metric is based on and Canada's scores: * A good job market - 98.4 * Affordable - 15.1 * Economically stable - 98.2. * Family-friendly - 98.5. * Income equality - 61.2. * Politically stable - 91.8. * Safe - 93.2. * Well-developed public education system - 88.7. * Well-developed public health system - 91.2. Anecdotally, affordability and wealth equality (not income equality) are much better indicators of QoL. "Good job market" must be availability of jobs (which has certainly lagged since 2022, when this data is from), not pay relative to cost of living. Myself and most working-class Canadians could do with a bit of political instability right now.

tensor 3y ago
If by political instability you mean voting for the part with a big C that will only worsen your position and increase hate and discord among Canadians, then please find your "political instability" elsewhere. Ditto if you think "protesting" means harassing and attacking your fellow Canadians. If you think "political instability" means voting for people who will actually fight for the poor, like the NDP, well, that's not going to cause much instability I'm afraid. But it will help you.
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  Political instability ideally takes the form of holding the government accountable for serving their corporate overlords rather than regular Canadians. I don't think there's a party that represents my interests, but the NDP or Communist party (is this the big C you're referring to?) probably are the closest. NDP is the only one likely to have any influence, but they aren't willing to put forth a serious critique of capitalism in their fight for social equity. Even if they won a majority, I don't think they'd make a dent in the housing crisis.