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> Male and female pairings used to be more restricted geographically and by limited social graph sizes, both of which restrictions have been removed. Wouldn’t

> Male and female pairings used to be more restricted geographically and by limited social graph sizes, both of which restrictions have been removed. Wouldn’t this have created local incel populations? Have the geographic restrictions really been eliminated? Are people flying all over the country to find mates ?

Atheros 3y ago
Dating apps (the means to meet someone on the other side of the city) and transportation technology (the means to travel to the other side of the city) have drastically opened up prior restrictions. When everyone met through church or local social clubs and when church was within walking distance, Chad couldn't date five women at once. Now he can and does.
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
1) women were more limited, so they "settled" more 2) the "winner" males, which are DOMINATING dating apps, would be reduced in scope of "stealing" mates, which also leads back to women "settling" more 3) the dating apps and communication that comes with the internet have increased visibility to the inequality relative to the "civilized ideal" of monogamy A lot of incels are accused of assuming privilege that a man deserves dates, etc. And really, that does underpin a lot of the incel anger: "I followed the rules, worked hard, got job, behave, did as I was told" which is really what the bargain was with "surplus males" from the last couple hundred years: don't cause too many issues, fit in rather than rebel/usurp/raid, and your odds of mating go way up. Women of course think this is nonsense, they were limited by the "male dominated" system. Sociology has said for decades that being in a reasonably stable relationship is good for the male/female and civilization in general. That carnal desire to just chase the most physically attractive hunk of mean has some actual truth, but in civilization it also leads people to bad relationships and decisions more often.

Atheros 3y ago

Dating apps (the means to meet someone on the other side of the city) and transportation technology (the means to travel to the other side of the city) have drastically opened up prior restrictions. When everyone met through church or local social clubs and when church was within walking distance, Chad couldn't date five women at once. Now he can and does.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

1) women were more limited, so they "settled" more 2) the "winner" males, which are DOMINATING dating apps, would be reduced in scope of "stealing" mates, which also leads back to women "settling" more 3) the dating apps and communication that comes with the internet have increased visibility to the inequality relative to the "civilized ideal" of monogamy A lot of incels are accused of assuming privilege that a man deserves dates, etc. And really, that does underpin a lot of the incel anger: "I followed the rules, worked hard, got job, behave, did as I was told" which is really what the bargain was with "surplus males" from the last couple hundred years: don't cause too many issues, fit in rather than rebel/usurp/raid, and your odds of mating go way up. Women of course think this is nonsense, they were limited by the "male dominated" system. Sociology has said for decades that being in a reasonably stable relationship is good for the male/female and civilization in general. That carnal desire to just chase the most physically attractive hunk of mean has some actual truth, but in civilization it also leads people to bad relationships and decisions more often.