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Now imagine all those cyclists and pedestrians would also drive a car, would also be on the road at the same time. You think driving would be less stressfull th

Now imagine all those cyclists and pedestrians would also drive a car, would also be on the road at the same time. You think driving would be less stressfull then?

twoWhlsGud 3y ago
Yes, I tell my driving friends who complain about some nut they saw cycling - "Well, would you be happier if he did that in a Chevy Suburban?" :)
tsimionescu 3y ago
In my expeirence, it is far more common for cyclists to break traffic rules than it is for cars to do so. Even pedestrians are far more likely to cross on a red light than cars, for example. The vast majority of humans have some respect for the fact that they are in charge of a ton or more of hulking metal when driving a car, and thus take on more responsibility. Drinking and driving is far less common than drinking and cycling too.
- steelframe 3y ago
  > In my expeirence, it is far more common for cyclists to break traffic rules than it is for cars to do so Or perhaps it's that you're biased and you selectively observe. https://electrek.co/2024/01/11/cars-or-bikes-surprising-results-of-study-reveal-who-breaks-more-road-laws/ https://electrek.co/2024/01/11/cars-or-bikes-surprising-resu... https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/?sh=1bdf42534bfa https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists... https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-break-traffic-laws-any-more-than-drivers-do https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b... https://road.cc/content/news/260509-cyclists-far-less-likely-break-traffic-laws-motorists-finds-study https://road.cc/content/news/260509-cyclists-far-less-likely...
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  If a car makes a misstake - that is a 2 ton fast projectile. If a cyclist does, it is a 150 kg and way slower one - that's the difference and the post I replied to did not say anyone was breaking any rules. Just that there were so many of them. But if they all would be driving cars instead - it would just mean traffic jam. So maybe be thankful for those people choosing to not contribute to more traffic jam. And noise. And pollution.
- marssaxman 3y ago
  It depends on which traffic rules you are watching for. Car drivers are vastly more likely to break speed limit rules than bike riders are; in fact it's a minority of drivers I see who don't break speed limit rules (which leaves me wondering why they are still considered to be rules at all, in a supposedly democratic society; but that's another conversation) while it's a rare bike rider who is even capable of the athletics necessary to do so.

Now imagine all those cyclists and pedestrians would also drive a car, would also be on the road at the same time. You think driving would be less stressfull then?

twoWhlsGud 3y ago

Yes, I tell my driving friends who complain about some nut they saw cycling - "Well, would you be happier if he did that in a Chevy Suburban?" :)

tsimionescu 3y ago

In my expeirence, it is far more common for cyclists to break traffic rules than it is for cars to do so. Even pedestrians are far more likely to cross on a red light than cars, for example. The vast majority of humans have some respect for the fact that they are in charge of a ton or more of hulking metal when driving a car, and thus take on more responsibility. Drinking and driving is far less common than drinking and cycling too.

steelframe 3y ago
> In my expeirence, it is far more common for cyclists to break traffic rules than it is for cars to do so Or perhaps it's that you're biased and you selectively observe. https://electrek.co/2024/01/11/cars-or-bikes-surprising-results-of-study-reveal-who-breaks-more-road-laws/ https://electrek.co/2024/01/11/cars-or-bikes-surprising-resu... https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists-break-far-fewer-road-rules-than-motorists-finds-new-video-study/?sh=1bdf42534bfa https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/05/10/cyclists... https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-break-traffic-laws-any-more-than-drivers-do https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b... https://road.cc/content/news/260509-cyclists-far-less-likely-break-traffic-laws-motorists-finds-study https://road.cc/content/news/260509-cyclists-far-less-likely...
hutzlibu 3y ago
If a car makes a misstake - that is a 2 ton fast projectile. If a cyclist does, it is a 150 kg and way slower one - that's the difference and the post I replied to did not say anyone was breaking any rules. Just that there were so many of them. But if they all would be driving cars instead - it would just mean traffic jam. So maybe be thankful for those people choosing to not contribute to more traffic jam. And noise. And pollution.
marssaxman 3y ago
It depends on which traffic rules you are watching for. Car drivers are vastly more likely to break speed limit rules than bike riders are; in fact it's a minority of drivers I see who don't break speed limit rules (which leaves me wondering why they are still considered to be rules at all, in a supposedly democratic society; but that's another conversation) while it's a rare bike rider who is even capable of the athletics necessary to do so.