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Great to see him (and this article) conflating Type 1 with Type 2. The kind of conflation that could kill someone. Good job, theguardian.

by sgt101 3y ago

Orangeair 3y ago
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- peterfirefly 3y ago
  Didn't mean to be a copycat. Hadn't seen your response when I wrote mine.
- dang 3y ago
  Please edit out swipes like "What are you talking about?" from your HN comments. They're never needed, and tend to degrade discussion. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    Disagree in this case. It made the comment easier to read than my sibling comment that happened to use the exact same quote.
peterfirefly 3y ago
From the article: Another example, for Taubes, of how early researchers were mistaken, concerns the differences between type 1 and type 2 diabetes, which are so different they almost shouldn’t share a name.
- sgt101 3y ago
  From the article: >Taubes has published five books on sugar, fat and carbohydrate, including his latest, Rethinking Diabetes, in which he posits that low-carb diets have been under-used as a way to manage blood glucose in type 1 and type 2 diabetes, in favour of drug-heavy treatment regimes which, he suspects, may do more harm than good. So, it conflates and then says "we shouldn't conflate". It's not good enough. I currently live with a type-1 teenager who is not at all happy about her condition and my family simply does not need cross talk that can be selectively quoted back at us over the dinner table. This sort of wording and "questioning" is harmful and dangerous. Before my daughter was diagnosed she got scary thin, we were seriously frightened by the process and I have no doubt that without insulin she would have died before her 10th birthday. Taking insulin or not taking insulin is a life and death issue for us, this sort of article is not the right place for a debate of this sort - that debate should happen in the scientific community. This isn't a popularity contest.
  - peterfirefly 3y ago
    Will low-carb diets allow type 1 patients to use less insulin? Probably. At least, that is my conclusion of all the papers I've read on the subject. I would even go so far as to say "almost certainly". You have a problem with a daughter who doesn't reason well. That is too bad but it should not be other people's problem. It is also not a problem with the Guardian article or with Taube's writing. It also not "conflating" in any meaningful sense of the word.

Great to see him (and this article) conflating Type 1 with Type 2. The kind of conflation that could kill someone. Good job, theguardian.

by sgt101 3y ago

Great to see him (and this article) conflating Type 1 with Type 2. The kind of conflation that could kill someone. Good job, theguardian.

Orangeair 3y ago

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peterfirefly 3y ago
Didn't mean to be a copycat. Hadn't seen your response when I wrote mine.
dang 3y ago
Please edit out swipes like "What are you talking about?" from your HN comments. They're never needed, and tend to degrade discussion. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  Disagree in this case. It made the comment easier to read than my sibling comment that happened to use the exact same quote.

peterfirefly 3y ago

From the article: Another example, for Taubes, of how early researchers were mistaken, concerns the differences between type 1 and type 2 diabetes, which are so different they almost shouldn’t share a name.

sgt101 3y ago
From the article: >Taubes has published five books on sugar, fat and carbohydrate, including his latest, Rethinking Diabetes, in which he posits that low-carb diets have been under-used as a way to manage blood glucose in type 1 and type 2 diabetes, in favour of drug-heavy treatment regimes which, he suspects, may do more harm than good. So, it conflates and then says "we shouldn't conflate". It's not good enough. I currently live with a type-1 teenager who is not at all happy about her condition and my family simply does not need cross talk that can be selectively quoted back at us over the dinner table. This sort of wording and "questioning" is harmful and dangerous. Before my daughter was diagnosed she got scary thin, we were seriously frightened by the process and I have no doubt that without insulin she would have died before her 10th birthday. Taking insulin or not taking insulin is a life and death issue for us, this sort of article is not the right place for a debate of this sort - that debate should happen in the scientific community. This isn't a popularity contest.
- peterfirefly 3y ago
  Will low-carb diets allow type 1 patients to use less insulin? Probably. At least, that is my conclusion of all the papers I've read on the subject. I would even go so far as to say "almost certainly". You have a problem with a daughter who doesn't reason well. That is too bad but it should not be other people's problem. It is also not a problem with the Guardian article or with Taube's writing. It also not "conflating" in any meaningful sense of the word.