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good luck fighting NIMBY to allow high density housing. NIMBY block all new development ironically by using environmental regulation. We all know building dens

good luck fighting NIMBY to allow high density housing. NIMBY block all new development ironically by using environmental regulation. We all know building denser housing is better than expanding out. But people have all their saving tied to their house so no way they are going to vote for denser housing. There is no way to "pressure" nimbys or politicians because their voting block has to much to lose.

mschuster91 3y ago
I did not advocate for denser housing. For what it's worth: to the contrary, I advocate for strengthening rural areas - it makes property ownership possible in the first place, building out dense housing requires a lot of very expensive infrastructure, and the complete disconnect behind urban and rural life style and quality is one of the biggest contributors to the current political divide.
- apwell23 3y ago
  >I did not advocate for denser housing. I thought you did when you said this > build out public transport such as buses, trams or subways to replace individual transportation. Denser housing is a prerequisite for this? > I advocate for strengthening rural areas rural areas with trams, buses and subways?
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    > Denser housing is a prerequisite for this? No it's not. Not by far. That's just to get cars out of already existing dense urban areas because as long as you take aboveground space for parking cars, you can't plant trees there, and massive amounts of cars in relatively small spaces produce really nasty local emission concentrations. > rural areas with trams, buses and subways? Suburbs can be perfectly well served by buses, connecting to train stations that in turn connect to larger agglomerations. The idea is to have a dense enough mesh so that almost no one needs a car for their day-to-day individual transportation needs. Employment-related transportation (such as farmers, tradespeople and the likes) is obviously going to need dedicated vehicles even in the future, but the primary goal is to get the 80% [1] of individual transport made using cars down to as close to 0 as possible because that's where the masses are made. [1] https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/daten/verkehr/fahrleistungen-verkehrsaufwand-modal-split#personenverkehr https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/daten/verkehr/fahrleistungen-...
    - apwell23 3y ago
      > Suburbs you were talking about rural areas not suburbs . Back to the topic you bought up > strengthening rural areas > build out public transport such as buses, trams or subways to replace individual transportation. Explain how this would work.

mschuster91 3y ago

I did not advocate for denser housing. For what it's worth: to the contrary, I advocate for strengthening rural areas - it makes property ownership possible in the first place, building out dense housing requires a lot of very expensive infrastructure, and the complete disconnect behind urban and rural life style and quality is one of the biggest contributors to the current political divide.

apwell23 3y ago
>I did not advocate for denser housing. I thought you did when you said this > build out public transport such as buses, trams or subways to replace individual transportation. Denser housing is a prerequisite for this? > I advocate for strengthening rural areas rural areas with trams, buses and subways?
- mschuster91 3y ago
  > Denser housing is a prerequisite for this? No it's not. Not by far. That's just to get cars out of already existing dense urban areas because as long as you take aboveground space for parking cars, you can't plant trees there, and massive amounts of cars in relatively small spaces produce really nasty local emission concentrations. > rural areas with trams, buses and subways? Suburbs can be perfectly well served by buses, connecting to train stations that in turn connect to larger agglomerations. The idea is to have a dense enough mesh so that almost no one needs a car for their day-to-day individual transportation needs. Employment-related transportation (such as farmers, tradespeople and the likes) is obviously going to need dedicated vehicles even in the future, but the primary goal is to get the 80% [1] of individual transport made using cars down to as close to 0 as possible because that's where the masses are made. [1] https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/daten/verkehr/fahrleistungen-verkehrsaufwand-modal-split#personenverkehr https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/daten/verkehr/fahrleistungen-...
  - apwell23 3y ago
    > Suburbs you were talking about rural areas not suburbs . Back to the topic you bought up > strengthening rural areas > build out public transport such as buses, trams or subways to replace individual transportation. Explain how this would work.