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Alas a set of rehashed points that don’t resonate. // Hiding critical/often-used buttons behind touchscreens for the sake of minimalism (and cost?) I see this
by xyzelement 3y ago
Alas a set of rehashed points that don’t resonate.
// Hiding critical/often-used buttons behind touchscreens for the sake of minimalism (and cost?)
I see this one written of often but I don’t see it on my 2 year old Toyota or cars I’ve borrowed/rented. I literally never had to access the touch screen for a critical function.
Assuming this problem does exist on some cars, it seems easy to avoid as I’ve avoided it without trying.
// On that note, poor physical layout in general (genuinely thinking that you can rate cars’ on a “hazard-light-button-placement index”)
I’ve definitely experienced the moment in a rental/borrowed vehicle where it took me a bit of scanning around the dashboard to find the blinkers button. But this seems to just be variance across manufacturers. Eg my Toyota is consistent with Toyotas that came before it even if that’s different than some other manufacturer’s internal consistency. Is the author really struggling to find the blinkers on a vehicle he’s already familiar with?
// Cars are getting too big; why are manufacturers pushing “crossovers” and SUVs on consumers and why are consumers buying them? I could write pages on this point alone.
One thing here is that this is a single man who can’t relate to the needs and desires of other types of customers. I loved small cars as a single man and love my mid size SUV as a dad of two and on certain occasions wish it was bigger.
Cars are getting bigger because through marvel of technology that has become economical to manufacture and operate. Eg my SUV gets nearly 40 mpg whereas a few decades ago that was economy car territory.
- ghusto 3y ago> Cars are getting bigger because through marvel of technology that has become economical to manufacture and operate Cars are getting bigger because they can be made bigger? Did anyone ask; "would you _like_ a bigger car?"? Putting aside everything else, I don't appreciate these massive things taking up so much space that often we have to sacrifice an entire extra parking space in a row so that we can park safely.
- xyzelement 3y ago// Did anyone ask; "would you _like_ a bigger car?"? No, this is a real problem :( I wanted to buy a Corolla but the dealer tickle tortured me until I gave in and said “fine I’ll buy the Highlander” I still shudder to think about it every time I easily fit my wife, kids and the stuff into the car for a road trip. Kidding aside “do you want this?” is a question the market asks of consumer. Bigger cars still cost more to buy and run than compacts. People are willing to pay more because clearly enough of us want these bigger cars.
- fuzzy2 3y ago"My car isn't like that so it can't be a problem", really? Wow
- xyzelement 3y ago“A problem that can be easily avoided is not a huge problem” is the point the post you are replying to makes.
- bdcravens 3y agoToyotas are pretty good in that regard (we've owned several). However, my wife now owns a VW ID.4, and it is the worst car UI/UX I've ever experienced. Likely the author was thinking of Teslas, which is the worst example of this, but I don't think this is strictly an EV thing, as my EV6 is very practical with physical controls, despite having the typical large touchscreen (for setting, infotainment, navigation, etc)
- xyzelement 3y agoWhat’s an example of something that’s inaccessible on the WV?
- bdcravens 3y agoMy favorite example is the window controls. Instead of the standard 4 toggle switches (front and back, driver and passenger side) there's only two, with a touch control to toggle between front and back that gives pretty much no feedback.
- asylteltine 3y agoYou can’t fit two children in a sedan? Europeans seem to manage…
- xyzelement 3y agoI can. If I had to, I would. I prefer my SUV as do millions of others. I am answering the question of “why are cars larger” not claiming you can’t make do w something else.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y agoIt's a question of diet and exercise.
- shortsunblack 3y agoCars are only getting bigger and they are getting bigger because light trucks are not regulated. Also, there's the Chicken tax which preferences American car makers. None of this is consumer demand. It's about maximizing profit with bad regulation that has unintended consequences.