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Minivans are super practical vehicles, with great engineering that get overlooked because they have a weird uncool stigma about them.

jareklupinski 3y ago
> a weird uncool stigma about them would be easiest to just move the marketing dollars from the Mustang to the Sienna, but those dollars come from the markup over BOM that Mustang owners are willing and able to afford Sienna purchasers probably don't mind paying less for a stigma since their primary concern likely is carrying kids around, instead of advertising their ability to have them in the first place
roland35 3y ago
Minivans are super hard to buy right now - although demand probably isn't too high the supply is extremely limited. A minivan would be too big for my family's daily needs, but I love renting them for road trips. Even the older dodge caravan has great space and is a comfy ride for everyone.
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petre 3y ago
Not so uncool when you stick all the kids, the dog and the luggage inside, two kayaks and two rigid SUP boards on the roof and three bikes on the back rack.
pc86 3y ago
Uncool to whom? Everyone I know who has even two kids wants one, and anyone with more than three already has one or is miserable constantly taking both vehicles everywhere. The waitlist on a Toyota Sienna is well over a year long. 1-year old models sell above new MSRP because you can get one today with 10k miles on it vs. putting your name on a list and waiting. And they're not cheap by any stretch. A base model Sienna is almost $40k. That's more than a year's income for 25% of households[0]. The Platinum starts at $15k more than that. [0] https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-household-income-percentiles/ https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-household-income-percen...
D13Fd 3y ago
> Minivans are super practical vehicles, with great engineering that get overlooked because they have a weird uncool stigma about them. So much this. My minivan fits my five kids, myself, and all of their bikes (using the big trunk and front seat) with room to spare. It's amazing. Nonetheless, my wife won't drive it and complains constantly that it would "make her look like a soccer mom." She hates it. Instead she drives a Subaru Ascent, which only just barely fits the kids, feels cramped, and has maybe 30% of the cargo space—all while having a pretty similar footprint.

jareklupinski 3y ago

> a weird uncool stigma about them would be easiest to just move the marketing dollars from the Mustang to the Sienna, but those dollars come from the markup over BOM that Mustang owners are willing and able to afford Sienna purchasers probably don't mind paying less for a stigma since their primary concern likely is carrying kids around, instead of advertising their ability to have them in the first place

roland35 3y ago

Minivans are super hard to buy right now - although demand probably isn't too high the supply is extremely limited. A minivan would be too big for my family's daily needs, but I love renting them for road trips. Even the older dodge caravan has great space and is a comfy ride for everyone.

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petre 3y ago

Not so uncool when you stick all the kids, the dog and the luggage inside, two kayaks and two rigid SUP boards on the roof and three bikes on the back rack.

pc86 3y ago

Uncool to whom? Everyone I know who has even two kids wants one, and anyone with more than three already has one or is miserable constantly taking both vehicles everywhere. The waitlist on a Toyota Sienna is well over a year long. 1-year old models sell above new MSRP because you can get one today with 10k miles on it vs. putting your name on a list and waiting. And they're not cheap by any stretch. A base model Sienna is almost $40k. That's more than a year's income for 25% of households[0]. The Platinum starts at $15k more than that. [0] https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-household-income-percentiles/ https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-household-income-percen...

D13Fd 3y ago

> Minivans are super practical vehicles, with great engineering that get overlooked because they have a weird uncool stigma about them. So much this. My minivan fits my five kids, myself, and all of their bikes (using the big trunk and front seat) with room to spare. It's amazing. Nonetheless, my wife won't drive it and complains constantly that it would "make her look like a soccer mom." She hates it. Instead she drives a Subaru Ascent, which only just barely fits the kids, feels cramped, and has maybe 30% of the cargo space—all while having a pretty similar footprint.