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...okay then, looks like I was wrong. Guess they have a better PR department?

DoingIsLearning 3y ago
Boeing's (aeronautic business) end-users are millions of passengers, Lockheed Martin's end-users are Defense and Intelligence. No need for damage control if mum's the word.
inferiorhuman 3y ago
They were "smart" enough to get out of the airliner business after the rather spectacular failure of the L-1011 and the whole wings falling off thing they went through with the Electra. The military has a much higher tolerance for bullshit. The wings keep falling off the C-130 and the military keeps flying them (and the C-5).
- hypercube33 3y ago
  I can't find a lot about c130 wings falling off. I found this which implies a known problem for c130a's wingbox which has a billion to retrofit with a new design - https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-sad-story-of-tanker-130-the-c-130-whose-wings-fall-off-during-the-2002-fire-season/ https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-sad-story-of-tanker-130-... Any more information?
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    Not much more information, but it's happened a few times. https://www.iprr.org/comps/T82story.htm https://www.iprr.org/comps/T82story.htm https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/c130-crash-of-1970-18150/ https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/c130-crash-of-197... https://www.defensedaily.com/hercules-crash-in-baghdad-points-to-metal-fatigue-in-c130s-wing-center/uncategorized/ https://www.defensedaily.com/hercules-crash-in-baghdad-point...
    - dotnet00 3y ago
      But the most recent incident you've cited is 18 years old. I'd hardly say "they keep falling off and they keep flying them" for that.
      - inferiorhuman 3y ago
        For context the Electra, Lockheed's penultimate airliner, lost its wings twice. After that airlines stopped buying it. Meanwhile the FAA put out another wing related AD for the C-130 in 2021. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/14/2021-10262/airworthiness-directives-lockheed-martin-corporationlockheed-martin-aeronautics-company-airplanes https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/14/2021-10...

Boeing's (aeronautic business) end-users are millions of passengers, Lockheed Martin's end-users are Defense and Intelligence. No need for damage control if mum's the word.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

They were "smart" enough to get out of the airliner business after the rather spectacular failure of the L-1011 and the whole wings falling off thing they went through with the Electra. The military has a much higher tolerance for bullshit. The wings keep falling off the C-130 and the military keeps flying them (and the C-5).

hypercube33 3y ago
I can't find a lot about c130 wings falling off. I found this which implies a known problem for c130a's wingbox which has a billion to retrofit with a new design - https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-sad-story-of-tanker-130-the-c-130-whose-wings-fall-off-during-the-2002-fire-season/ https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-sad-story-of-tanker-130-... Any more information?
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  Not much more information, but it's happened a few times. https://www.iprr.org/comps/T82story.htm https://www.iprr.org/comps/T82story.htm https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/c130-crash-of-1970-18150/ https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/c130-crash-of-197... https://www.defensedaily.com/hercules-crash-in-baghdad-points-to-metal-fatigue-in-c130s-wing-center/uncategorized/ https://www.defensedaily.com/hercules-crash-in-baghdad-point...
  - dotnet00 3y ago
    But the most recent incident you've cited is 18 years old. I'd hardly say "they keep falling off and they keep flying them" for that.
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      For context the Electra, Lockheed's penultimate airliner, lost its wings twice. After that airlines stopped buying it. Meanwhile the FAA put out another wing related AD for the C-130 in 2021. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/14/2021-10262/airworthiness-directives-lockheed-martin-corporationlockheed-martin-aeronautics-company-airplanes https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/05/14/2021-10...