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another docker post filled with podman propaganda. despite it all, still no one uses it.
by nickstinemates 3y ago
another docker post filled with podman propaganda. despite it all, still no one uses it.
- rtpg 3y agoI mean I know several people who run their infra with podman. But it's for personal things, I don't know if there is any level of usage at the enterprise level.
- viraptor 3y agoNot enterprise level, but I made a choice of deploying podman at $job rather than docker for a few reasons.
- KAMSPioneer 3y agoI'll chime in to say that I have started deploying podman over Docker where it's frictionless at $job as well. I'd say half (or more) of my new container deploys are podman. At home I use only podman because my tinkering doesn't affect anyone but me.
- oso2k 3y agoDISCLAIMER: I work for Red Hat. I'm formerly an OpenShift Consultant and SA. podman has underpinned our Kubernetes distribution, OpenShift, since 4.0 was released in 2019. OpenShift is a $1B+ USD business for us (https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707.html https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article271678707....). You can search and see a sample of who uses it for Enterprise level business.
- gbraad 3y agoOpenShift Container Platform uses CRI-O as the container engine and runC or crun as the container runtime. Podman is only directly used for the openshift-installer, but as a container management tool uses the same underlying runtimes. This means they share the same long tenure in production when it comes to using runc. Is that what you meant? https://docs.openshift.com/container-platform/4.14/nodes/containers/nodes-containers-using.html#:~:text=OpenShift%20Container%20Platform%20uses%20CRI,Initiative%20(OCI)%20runtime%20specifications https://docs.openshift.com/container-platform/4.14/nodes/con.... https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/#:~:text=Podman%20relies%20on%20an%20OCI%20compliant%20Container%20Runtime https://docs.podman.io/en/latest/#:~:text=Podman%20relies%20.... The answer is a little bit more nuanced, as the defaults differ. Podman uses crun by default: https://podman.io/docs/installation#:~:text=crun%20%2F%20runc%E2%80%8B,for%20example%20on%20Ubuntu%2022.04 https://podman.io/docs/installation#:~:text=crun%20%2F%20run.... For OpenShift the use of crun is available as a Technology Preview: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/whats-new-in-red-hat-openshift-4.12-blog https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/whats-new-in-red-hat-openshif... since 4.12. The default for 4.14 is still runC. Notwithstanding, Podman is gaining a lot of momentum, especially now with Podman Desktop. Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat on the Podman Machine and OpenShift Local/CRC teams to provide integration with Podman Desktop aiming at developer usecases
- gbraad 3y agoPodman Desktop sees a lot of increased use in the last few months and the PM has spoken with many of our 'customers' about the future and how they are using podman. Disclaimer: working at Red Hat as a (tech) manager of the OpenShift Local team, involved on the virtualization targets for Podman Machine and the integration of some of our extensions.
- ekianjo 3y agoStill a useful alternative to docker and can be packaged in distros
- 65a 3y agoI haven't used docker since ~2017. My clusters run on cri-o, builds are with kaniko, and some of my systems just call runc with OCI container definitions. Docker (especially its API) is a giant mess, and the sooner it's replaced by smaller tools and clear standards the better.
- c0balt 3y agoCan attest from $Job that there are podman users. Podman is awesome for some of our RHEL-based systems and we will continue to use it. You are just gonna hear about it a lot, because it's just a runtime.
- supriyo-biswas 3y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
- christophilus 3y agoI use it and love it. YMMV.